From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vaidheeswaran C Subject: Re: Citation syntax and ODT Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:22:50 +0530 Message-ID: <54EBF592.9000907@gmail.com> References: <87zj85s1vf.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54EAC71A.6080502@gmail.com> <87twycsg5a.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54EB6D6F.7060005@gmail.com> <87fv9wrz0s.fsf@berkeley.edu> <8761asng6r.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YQ6WO-0003ld-Cl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:50:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YQ6WK-0003xM-BE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:50:56 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YQ6WK-0003xH-3r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:50:52 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YQ6WI-0001QL-Dx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:50:50 +0100 Received: from 117.96.5.112 ([117.96.5.112]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:50:50 +0100 Received: from vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju by 117.96.5.112 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:50:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8761asng6r.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Tuesday 24 February 2015 08:56 AM, Alexis wrote: > For examle, one might have a citation style like: > > [Smith 2001] > > which in certain contexts is expected to have a presentation style of > 'bolded'. > > So what i understand Vaidheeswaran to be asking is: Please don't code > things such that presentation style is /necessarily/ carried along with > citation style. Make it so that exporting a document faithfully > reproduces the citation style in the target format, but don't /force/ > the presentation style used in the source format for citation style to > be the presentation style used in the destination format. > > Vaidheeswaran, is that correct? That is the sense in which I used the word 'style'. I also used 'style' in the sense of the relative order or form (abbreviated or not) of how the fields from citation database entry gets presented. I also used 'style' in the sense of Chicago, APA etc. When Richard uses 'formatting' he really means how pre and post notes should be injected in to the inline expansion of a citation reference (in the body text) so that a reader's experience is uneven due to jarring parenthetical marks. Even though we use terms differently, (I think) I have a feel for what the 'big' discussion is about. May be the citation spec, should come with a glossary of of terms that defines the sense in which those need to be understood/interpreted :-P