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* [PATCH] Second proposal for ":session" doc
@ 2014-12-07 10:51 Thierry Pellé
  2014-12-10 21:58 ` Aaron Ecay
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Thierry Pellé @ 2014-12-07 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi, here is a proposal for some change on the ":session" header doc.

Comments are welcome!
Thierry


diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index c1e84d4..45e177e 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -15566,7 +15566,9 @@ execution.
 @cindex @code{:session}, src header argument
 
 The @code{:session} header argument starts a session for an interpreted
-language where state is preserved.  By default, a session is not started.
+language.  All code block of this langage is executed into the same
+interpreter process, the state of the session being preserved as long as Emacs
+runs.  By default, a session is not started.
 
 @itemize @bullet
 @item @code{none}
@@ -15574,9 +15576,9 @@ The default.  Each block is evaluated in its own session.  The session is
 not preserved after the evaluation.
 @item @code{other}
 Any other string passed to the @code{:session} header argument will give the
-session a name.  All blocks with the same session name share the same
-session.  Using different session name enables concurrent sessions (even for
-the same interpreted language).  E.g., @code{:session mysession}.
+session a name (possibly empty).  All blocks with the same session name share
+the same session.  Using different session name enables concurrent sessions
+(for the same interpreted language).  E.g., @code{:session mysession} or @code{:session}.
 @end itemize
 
 @node noweb

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* Re: [PATCH] Second proposal for ":session" doc
  2014-12-07 10:51 [PATCH] Second proposal for ":session" doc Thierry Pellé
@ 2014-12-10 21:58 ` Aaron Ecay
  2014-12-11  7:46   ` abonnements
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Ecay @ 2014-12-10 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: abonnements, emacs-orgmode

Hi Thierry,

2014ko abenudak 7an, Thierry Pellé-ek idatzi zuen:
> 
> Hi, here is a proposal for some change on the ":session" header doc.
> 
> Comments are welcome!
> Thierry
> 
> 
> diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
> index c1e84d4..45e177e 100644
> --- a/doc/org.texi
> +++ b/doc/org.texi
> @@ -15566,7 +15566,9 @@ execution.
>  @cindex @code{:session}, src header argument
>  
>  The @code{:session} header argument starts a session for an interpreted
> -language where state is preserved.  By default, a session is not started.
> +language.  All code block of this langage is executed into the same
                            ^                ^^          ^^^^
                            s                are         by
> +interpreter process, the state of the session being preserved as long as Emacs
                      ^                          ^^^^^
                      Start a new sentence here, and change to is
> +runs.  By default, a session is not started.

On a substantive note, “as long as Emacs runs” is not quite accurate –
it’s until the interpreter process exits, which could happen because the
user kills it, it crashes, a piece of code which is executed tells it to
exit, ...

>  
>  @itemize @bullet
>  @item @code{none}
> @@ -15574,9 +15576,9 @@ The default.  Each block is evaluated in its own session.  The session is
>  not preserved after the evaluation.
>  @item @code{other}
>  Any other string passed to the @code{:session} header argument will give the
> -session a name.  All blocks with the same session name share the same
> -session.  Using different session name enables concurrent sessions (even for
> -the same interpreted language).  E.g., @code{:session mysession}.
> +session a name (possibly empty).  All blocks with the same session name share

I think something should be said like “If the session name is empty, a
default name based on the block’s language will be used.”  The session
name also becomes the interpreter process’s buffer name, and leaving
:session empty does not generate a buffer named “” (the empty string).

(It’s also a perverse but true fact that if you specify the same session
name for two blocks of different languages, they will both send their
code to the same interpreter process.  But for two blocks in different
languages with an empty :session, they will each use their language’s
default name.)

> +the same session.  Using different session name enables concurrent sessions
> +(for the same interpreted language).  E.g., @code{:session mysession} or @code{:session}.
>  @end itemize
>  
>  @node noweb

Thanks,

-- 
Aaron Ecay
PhD candidate, Linguistics
University of Pennsylvania

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* Re: [PATCH] Second proposal for ":session" doc
  2014-12-10 21:58 ` Aaron Ecay
@ 2014-12-11  7:46   ` abonnements
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: abonnements @ 2014-12-11  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello thanks for this.

 >   ^   ^^  ^^^
Sorry, but my English needs to be improved, but my French is not even 
better :-D

 >  "...it’s until the interpreter process exit..."
I will use your reformulation; I know just a little about the background 
or the internals.

 > “If the session name is empty, a default name based on the block’s 
language will be used.”
Same as previous, I din't know that.

Thanks.


Le 10/12/2014 22:58, Aaron Ecay a écrit :
> Hi Thierry,
>
> 2014ko abenudak 7an, Thierry Pellé-ek idatzi zuen:
>> Hi, here is a proposal for some change on the ":session" header doc.
>>
>> Comments are welcome!
>> Thierry
>>
>>
>> diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
>> index c1e84d4..45e177e 100644
>> --- a/doc/org.texi
>> +++ b/doc/org.texi
>> @@ -15566,7 +15566,9 @@ execution.
>>   @cindex @code{:session}, src header argument
>>   
>>   The @code{:session} header argument starts a session for an interpreted
>> -language where state is preserved.  By default, a session is not started.
>> +language.  All code block of this langage is executed into the same
>                              ^                ^^          ^^^^
>                              s                are         by
>> +interpreter process, the state of the session being preserved as long as Emacs
>                        ^                          ^^^^^
>                        Start a new sentence here, and change to is
>> +runs.  By default, a session is not started.
> On a substantive note, “as long as Emacs runs” is not quite accurate –
> it’s until the interpreter process exits, which could happen because the
> user kills it, it crashes, a piece of code which is executed tells it to
> exit, ...
>
>>   
>>   @itemize @bullet
>>   @item @code{none}
>> @@ -15574,9 +15576,9 @@ The default.  Each block is evaluated in its own session.  The session is
>>   not preserved after the evaluation.
>>   @item @code{other}
>>   Any other string passed to the @code{:session} header argument will give the
>> -session a name.  All blocks with the same session name share the same
>> -session.  Using different session name enables concurrent sessions (even for
>> -the same interpreted language).  E.g., @code{:session mysession}.
>> +session a name (possibly empty).  All blocks with the same session name share
> I think something should be said like “If the session name is empty, a
> default name based on the block’s language will be used.”  The session
> name also becomes the interpreter process’s buffer name, and leaving
> :session empty does not generate a buffer named “” (the empty string).
>
> (It’s also a perverse but true fact that if you specify the same session
> name for two blocks of different languages, they will both send their
> code to the same interpreter process.  But for two blocks in different
> languages with an empty :session, they will each use their language’s
> default name.)
>
>> +the same session.  Using different session name enables concurrent sessions
>> +(for the same interpreted language).  E.g., @code{:session mysession} or @code{:session}.
>>   @end itemize
>>   
>>   @node noweb
> Thanks,
>

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