From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Charles Millar Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:50:09 -0400 Message-ID: <52474101.7010904@verizon.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ1TI-0001G4-DE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:50:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ1TB-0000u6-04 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:50:36 -0400 Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.15]:63059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ1TA-0000tz-RD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:50:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [70.192.14.136]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTU00EW5SJLRQ60@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 15:50:10 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 9/28/2013 3:52 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Aloha Carsten, > snip > First, I think that most statements about "what Org-mode is" are > outdated. Many of them are quite good, but they represent the previous > state of an evolving system and so fail to capture the full scope. To my > mind, Org-mode is a "research programming interface" written by and for > scientists who take very seriously certain core values of the scientific > enterprise--reproducibility, open access, and open source (a partial > list). Strongly disagree with the sentiment. My undergraduate degree may gave been Physics, but I work as a freelance paralegal. I use Org Mode for project (file) planning, scheduling, drafting documents, etc. Also, I believe that there are some very active participants on this list who are not scientists and have made great contributions. > Its original focus on project planning has expanded with two > amazing and fundamental contributions, Eric and Dan's mature Babel > implementation and Nicolas' new export framework. I use the LaTeX export to create pdf documents, such as contracts and pleadings, nothing "scientific" there. Sometimes I will export to utf-8 text file, so I can copy and paste into "those other" document formats. (Sorry to say, but most of the US legal community is still MS Word and WordPerfect oriented.) I believe that I can eventually use Org-Babel for reproducible "research", research being more other than scientific. > > These core values are manifest most clearly in the Org-mode community > and its organ, the mailing list. There isn't a tutorial on how to use > the mailing list! I'm confident that others in the Org-mode community > admire Nick Dokos' contributions to the list as much as I do. It would > be great to have his perspective and approach in a short, welcoming > tutorial. No argument about the mailing list - see my earlier post. Also, Nick has helped me a few times; and I might add, I make sure that I read your posts - this is not to curry favor! > hth, > Tom > Charlie Millar