From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rainer M Krug Subject: Re: saving state of buffer Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:59:17 +0100 Message-ID: <514AF615.7010000@gmail.com> References: <878v5inpfd.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <514AD187.6080903@gmail.com> <514AD606.30505@gmail.com> <514AEE46.5010502@gmail.com> <294AC636-BAF5-4A92-A806-8AF399924492@gmail.com> Reply-To: Rainer@krugs.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54652) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIe9Y-00034n-TO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:59:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIe9T-0003rx-76 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:59:28 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]:61412) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIe9S-0003rs-U0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:59:23 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hq4so2959839wib.11 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 04:59:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <294AC636-BAF5-4A92-A806-8AF399924492@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik , Rainer@krugs.de Cc: 42 147 , Org Mode -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 21/03/13 12:38, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On 21 mrt. 2013, at 12:25, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > On 21/03/13 12:02, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>>> This is nice, does anyone of you have write permissions on Work to add this? > > I should have, but I have never done it. > >> Well, you can try, or else I'll do it. I could, and I would (I was looking for an excuse for a long time), but I have no time before middle next week. I can put it into my TODO items for then. I just relised, I was only registered to repo.or.cz - but I will register as described at http://orgmode.org/worg/worg-git.html If it should be up earlier, please feel free to do it. Cheers, Rainer > >> - Carsten > > > Rainer > >>>> >>>> - Carsten >>>> >>>> On 21 mrt. 2013, at 11:16, 42 147 > wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Good - May I suggest, that you write a step - by step howto and mail it here or even >>>>>> add it to worg? This would be a useful addition. >>>>> I adapted this thread the best I could. Feel free to do with it what you wish. >>>>> >>>>> QUESTION >>>>> >>>>> How do I restore the state of my buffer where I left it? >>>>> >>>>> ANSWER >>>>> >>>>> When Emacs first visits an Org file, the global state is set to OVERVIEW, i.e., only >>>>> the top level headlines are visible. >>>>> >>>>> If you wish Emacs to restore the position of point where you left it in your previous >>>>> session, add the following code to your .emacs: >>>>> >>>>> (require 'saveplace) (setq-default save-place t) >>>>> >>>>> If you wish Org-mode to restore the folded state of the buffer (not just the position >>>>> of point), you can either use customize, or add the following to .emacs: >>>>> >>>>> (setq org-show-siblings '((default) (isearch t) (bookmark-jump . t))) >>>>> >>>>> If you use customize, take look at the variable org-show-siblings and set a special >>>>> context for bookmark-jump. This will work for both saveplace and bookmarks. >>>>> >>>>> Org-mode has very precise control for situations when a jump into invisible text >>>>> happens, for example by isearch or by bookmark-jump or saveplace. There are companion >>>>> variables, and they are all in the customization group org-reveal-context. >>>>> >>>>> 2013/3/21 Rainer M Krug > >>>>> >>>> On 21/03/13 10:28, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 21 mrt. 2013, at 10:23, Rainer M Krug >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 21/03/13 10:05, 42 147 wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks David, but what Carsten suggested completely resolved my problem (it >>>>>>>> applies not just to bookmarks; it fully preserves my buffer's folded state after >>>>>>>> adding Christoph's code to my .emacs). >>>> >>>>> Good - May I suggest, that you write a step - by step howto and mail it here or even >>>>> add it to worg? This would be a useful addition. >>>> >>>>>> I guess it would make a good FAQ entry. >>>> >>>> Haven't thought about these - they would even be better then worg. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I also think that maybe the current default is not good, show-siblings should >>>>>> probably default to t for bookmark jump. >>>> >>>> Would make much sense - I assume that would then open the location when doing a search - >>>> replace. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Rainer >>>> >>>> >>>>>> - Carsten >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> But I should also thank you for finding the words I struggled to find ("folded >>>>>>>> state"). >>>> >>>>> And we have to thank you for this useful question! >>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>>> Rainer >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I feel honored that royalty stepped into the discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Herzlichen Dank, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 42 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2013/3/21 Carsten Dominik >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20.3.2013, at 19:28, 42 147 >>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (require 'saveplace) (setq-default save-place t) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> works for me. It just opens the place where I had the point, nothing more, >>>>>>>>>> but that's what I need most. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is more convenient than Emacs bookmarks, but still breaks org-mode to a >>>>>>>>> certain extent: all non top-level headlines below point are hidden. At least >>>>>>>>> for me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Org-mode has very precise control for situations when a jump into invisible text >>>>>>>> happens, for example by isearch or by bookmark-jump or saveplace. Take a look at >>>>>>>> the variable org-show-siblings and set a special context for bookmark-jump, that >>>>>>>> should do it. This will work for both saveplace and bookmarks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can do this with customize, or just like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (setq org-show-siblings '((default) (isearch t) (bookmark-jump . t))) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are companion variables, they are all in the customization group >>>>>>>> org-reveal-context. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Carsten >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > > - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. 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