* Attention XEmacs users
@ 2006-06-14 16:54 Carsten Dominik
2006-06-15 13:21 ` Tim O'Callaghan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-14 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
If you are using XEmacs to run org-mode, the following is important for
you:
Starting with the next release of Org-mode (4.38, only a few days
away), Org-mode will require the use of noutline.el, a new
implementation of outline mode on which Org-mode is based. This new
implementation uses text overlays with invisibility properties to hide
text. This new implementation is already standard on GNU Emacs, so
nothing needs to be done if you are using GNU Emacs.
XEmacs currently still uses the old implementation which is based on
selective display to hide text. This works great, but is much harder
to program for. Since there is now a port of noutline.el for XEmacs
which seems to work stably, I will enforce using it, to make things
much easier for the Org-mode side, and thus for me. Therefore,
starting with the next version of Org-mode you need to install
noutline.el. In the near future, I will slowly but surely remove the
code needed for compatibility with the old outline.el.
The only way to keep me from doing what I just said is to download
noutline.el *now*, test it and report problems with it or with the
combination noutline/Org-mode.
You may download it at
http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/noutline.el
and install it in the usual way: byte-compile it, put both noutline.el
and noutline.elc on your load path. And put (for now) (require
'noutline) somewhere early into your .xemacs/init.el file.
Thanks for your understanding.
- Carsten
P.S. All credit for noutline.el for XEmacs goes to Greg Chernev for
porting it and allowing me to make it available. Thanks Greg!
- Carsten
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-14 16:54 Attention XEmacs users Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-15 13:21 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-15 17:38 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-20 12:09 ` Tim O'Callaghan
0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2006-06-15 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 06:54:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> If you are using XEmacs to run org-mode, the following is important
> for you:
>
> Starting with the next release of Org-mode (4.38, only a few days
> away), Org-mode will require the use of noutline.el, a new
> implementation of outline mode on which Org-mode is based. This new
> implementation uses text overlays with invisibility properties to
> hide text. This new implementation is already standard on GNU Emacs,
> so nothing needs to be done if you are using GNU Emacs.
>
> XEmacs currently still uses the old implementation which is based on
> selective display to hide text. This works great, but is much harder
> to program for. Since there is now a port of noutline.el for XEmacs
> which seems to work stably, I will enforce using it, to make things
> much easier for the Org-mode side, and thus for me. Therefore,
> starting with the next version of Org-mode you need to install
> noutline.el. In the near future, I will slowly but surely remove the
> code needed for compatibility with the old outline.el.
>
> The only way to keep me from doing what I just said is to download
> noutline.el *now*, test it and report problems with it or with the
> combination noutline/Org-mode.
>
> You may download it at
>
> http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/noutline.el
>
> and install it in the usual way: byte-compile it, put both
> noutline.el and noutline.elc on your load path. And put (for now)
> (require 'noutline) somewhere early into your .xemacs/init.el file.
>
> Thanks for your understanding.
>
Could you just add it into a 'contrib' type directory in the
distribution file?
I was thinking of suggesting the creation of a contrib directory where
you can throw things like this, as well as contributed perl scripts
and other stuff such as the other org mode extensions....
Tim.
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-15 13:21 ` Tim O'Callaghan
@ 2006-06-15 17:38 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-15 19:02 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-20 12:09 ` Tim O'Callaghan
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-15 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim O'Callaghan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Jun 15, 2006, at 15:21, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> Could you just add it into a 'contrib' type directory in the
> distribution file?
Yes, I will distribute the file with Org-mode, but in an XEmacs
directory, not in contrib. If I put it in contrib, too many people
will install it also under Emacs, which will break it and create too
many emails for me :-)
Yes, we could have a contrib directory. Any suggestions on how this
should be structured? It would need to have a mechanism to carry
documentation, and to clearly mark things as not under my maintenance.
- Carsten
>
> I was thinking of suggesting the creation of a contrib directory where
> you can throw things like this, as well as contributed perl scripts
> and other stuff such as the other org mode extensions....
>
> Tim.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-15 17:38 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-15 19:02 ` Tim O'Callaghan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2006-06-15 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 07:38:03PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On Jun 15, 2006, at 15:21, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> >Could you just add it into a 'contrib' type directory in the
> >distribution file?
>
> Yes, I will distribute the file with Org-mode, but in an XEmacs
> directory, not in contrib. If I put it in contrib, too many people
> will install it also under Emacs, which will break it and create too
> many emails for me :-)
>
> Yes, we could have a contrib directory. Any suggestions on how this
> should be structured? It would need to have a mechanism to carry
> documentation, and to clearly mark things as not under my
> maintenance.
>
A simple Readme-<contribution>.txt possibly? if you published a
CVS/whatever tree as a 'src' distribution alongside the normal distro,
it would then be up to the contrib maintainers to send you patches
against it for distribution. This should work if you use the same type
of pre-release warning email you sent for each release.
Tim.
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-15 13:21 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-15 17:38 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-20 12:09 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-20 13:47 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2006-06-20 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I experimented with automating the noutline usage with a patch for org-install:
(if (featurep 'xemacs)
(progn (setq dir (expand-file-name (concat default-directory "xemacs")))
(if (file-directory-p dir)
(setq load-path (cons dir load-path)))
)
)
The problem here is that default-directory was not set correctly at
runtime for some reason, so just added the xemacs dir to my load-path
instead. Its something you might consider though.
Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
(defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]" . "%5D") (" " . "%20"))
"Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in links.")
The fix is for a problem that occurs, when trying to open a remote
file link. org-open-at-point mangles the EFS file links, possibly
tramp ones as well, i've not tried. It by replaces every ':' with '!'.
The link file:/user@machine:/disk:/home/dir/WRK/ tries to open the
file "/user@machine!/disk!/home/dir/WRK/"
Its probably not the best way of going about it, but it works.
Tim.
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 12:09 ` Tim O'Callaghan
@ 2006-06-20 13:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-20 15:03 ` Tim O'Callaghan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-20 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim O'Callaghan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Tim,
On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
> (defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]" .
> "%5D") (" " . "%20"))
> "Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
> links.")
Is there a typo in this setting? The above setting should lead to an
infinite loop, because you keep replacing ":" with ":" when trying to
escape the link characters. And as far as I can see, org-mode passes
the file name right through to `find-file'. Could anyone try to
reporduce this?
- Carsten
>
> The fix is for a problem that occurs, when trying to open a remote
> file link. org-open-at-point mangles the EFS file links, possibly
> tramp ones as well, i've not tried. It by replaces every ':' with '!'.
>
> The link file:/user@machine:/disk:/home/dir/WRK/ tries to open the
> file "/user@machine!/disk!/home/dir/WRK/"
>
> Its probably not the best way of going about it, but it works.
>
> Tim.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 13:47 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-20 15:03 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-20 15:11 ` Carsten Dominik
[not found] ` <c55b018aaf03fc22cde44a33e739b86d@science.uva.nl>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2006-06-20 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:47:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> >Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
> >(defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]" .
> >"%5D") (" " . "%20"))
> > "Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
> >links.")
>
> Is there a typo in this setting? The above setting should lead to an
> infinite loop, because you keep replacing ":" with ":" when trying to
> escape the link characters. And as far as I can see, org-mode passes
> the file name right through to `find-file'. Could anyone try to
> reporduce this?
>
Sorry, it was a quick hack that seemed to work, and now for some
reason does not. The issue itself still exists though.
I've tracked it down to the convert-standard-filename call in
org-open-file. If i remove the convert-standard-filename, it does not
recognize it as an efs type file.
Anyway convert-standard-filename is what mangles efs type file
links. My guess is that it may be related to the C:\\filename problem
too.
Tim.
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 15:03 ` Tim O'Callaghan
@ 2006-06-20 15:11 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-20 16:26 ` Carsten Dominik
[not found] ` <c55b018aaf03fc22cde44a33e739b86d@science.uva.nl>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-20 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim O'Callaghan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Yes, looks like this function does not do at all what I think it should
be doing. I'll remove the call, thanks for tracking this down.
- Carsten
On Jun 20, 2006, at 17:03, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:47:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>
>>> Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
>>> (defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]" .
>>> "%5D") (" " . "%20"))
>>> "Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
>>> links.")
>>
>> Is there a typo in this setting? The above setting should lead to an
>> infinite loop, because you keep replacing ":" with ":" when trying to
>> escape the link characters. And as far as I can see, org-mode passes
>> the file name right through to `find-file'. Could anyone try to
>> reporduce this?
>>
>
> Sorry, it was a quick hack that seemed to work, and now for some
> reason does not. The issue itself still exists though.
>
> I've tracked it down to the convert-standard-filename call in
> org-open-file. If i remove the convert-standard-filename, it does not
> recognize it as an efs type file.
>
> Anyway convert-standard-filename is what mangles efs type file
> links. My guess is that it may be related to the C:\\filename problem
> too.
>
> Tim.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 15:11 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-20 16:26 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-20 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Jun 20, 2006, at 17:11, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Yes, looks like this function does not do at all what I think it
> should be doing. I'll remove the call, thanks for tracking this down.
Correction: ...what I *thought* it was doing. The function is fine, I
was wrong putting the call there.... :-)
- Carsten
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
[not found] ` <20060620162457.GE1132@ELSAMSW37164>
@ 2006-06-20 16:36 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-20 16:53 ` Tim O'Callaghan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-20 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Maybe you are not trying to open the file in emacs?
Following a link picks an application to open the file, depending on
the extension. Under windows, the default is to use "open" for files,
which is just like double-clicking them. However, "open" may choke on
an efs path.
You can force the link to open inside emacs with C-u C-c C-o. Have you
tried this?
- Carsten
On Jun 20, 2006, at 18:24, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:10:27PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Yes, looks like this function does not do at all what I think it
>> should be doing. I'll remove the call, thanks for tracking this
>> down.
>>
>
> I've tracked it down to something in org-open file. It gets past the
> "No such file: " clause. Efs seems to be functioning well enough up
> until the point where the file actually gets opened.
>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 17:03, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:47:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
>>>>> (defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]" .
>>>>> "%5D") (" " . "%20"))
>>>>> "Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
>>>>> links.")
>>>>
>>>> Is there a typo in this setting? The above setting should lead to
>>>> an
>>>> infinite loop, because you keep replacing ":" with ":" when trying
>>>> to
>>>> escape the link characters. And as far as I can see, org-mode
>>>> passes
>>>> the file name right through to `find-file'. Could anyone try to
>>>> reporduce this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, it was a quick hack that seemed to work, and now for some
>>> reason does not. The issue itself still exists though.
>>>
>>> I've tracked it down to the convert-standard-filename call in
>>> org-open-file. If i remove the convert-standard-filename, it does
>>> not
>>> recognize it as an efs type file.
>>>
>>> Anyway convert-standard-filename is what mangles efs type file
>>> links. My guess is that it may be related to the C:\\filename
>>> problem
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Tim.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Carsten Dominik
>> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
>> Universiteit van Amsterdam
>> Kruislaan 403
>> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
>> phone: +31 20 525 7477
>>
>
> Tim.
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 16:36 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-20 16:53 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-20 17:13 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2006-06-20 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 06:36:19PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Maybe you are not trying to open the file in emacs?
> Following a link picks an application to open the file, depending on
> the extension. Under windows, the default is to use "open" for
> files, which is just like double-clicking them. However, "open" may
> choke on an efs path.
>
> You can force the link to open inside emacs with C-u C-c C-o. Have
> you tried this?
>
Yep, it looks like this is the problem.
> - Carsten
>
> On Jun 20, 2006, at 18:24, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:10:27PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >>Yes, looks like this function does not do at all what I think it
> >>should be doing. I'll remove the call, thanks for tracking this
> >>down.
> >>
> >
> >I've tracked it down to something in org-open file. It gets past the
> >"No such file: " clause. Efs seems to be functioning well enough up
> >until the point where the file actually gets opened.
> >
> >>- Carsten
> >>
> >>On Jun 20, 2006, at 17:03, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:47:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >>>>Hi Tim,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
> >>>>>(defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]"
> >>>>>.
> >>>>>"%5D") (" " . "%20"))
> >>>>>"Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
> >>>>>links.")
> >>>>
> >>>>Is there a typo in this setting? The above setting should lead
> >>>>to
> >>>>an
> >>>>infinite loop, because you keep replacing ":" with ":" when
> >>>>trying
> >>>>to
> >>>>escape the link characters. And as far as I can see, org-mode
> >>>>passes
> >>>>the file name right through to `find-file'. Could anyone try to
> >>>>reporduce this?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Sorry, it was a quick hack that seemed to work, and now for some
> >>>reason does not. The issue itself still exists though.
> >>>
> >>>I've tracked it down to the convert-standard-filename call in
> >>>org-open-file. If i remove the convert-standard-filename, it does
> >>>not
> >>>recognize it as an efs type file.
> >>>
> >>>Anyway convert-standard-filename is what mangles efs type file
> >>>links. My guess is that it may be related to the C:\\filename
> >>>problem
> >>>too.
> >>>
> >>>Tim.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> >>>Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> >>>http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Carsten Dominik
> >>Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
> >>Universiteit van Amsterdam
> >>Kruislaan 403
> >>NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
> >>phone: +31 20 525 7477
> >>
> >
> >Tim.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Carsten Dominik
> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
> Universiteit van Amsterdam
> Kruislaan 403
> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
> phone: +31 20 525 7477
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Tim.
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 16:53 ` Tim O'Callaghan
@ 2006-06-20 17:13 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-20 17:29 ` Tim O'Callaghan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-20 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim O'Callaghan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Maybe I should force efs/tramp file names to be opened with Emacs/.
What is the best and most general way to test if a file name is efs or
tramp or ange-ftp?
- Carsten
On Jun 20, 2006, at 18:53, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 06:36:19PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Maybe you are not trying to open the file in emacs?
>> Following a link picks an application to open the file, depending on
>> the extension. Under windows, the default is to use "open" for
>> files, which is just like double-clicking them. However, "open" may
>> choke on an efs path.
>>
>> You can force the link to open inside emacs with C-u C-c C-o. Have
>> you tried this?
>>
>
> Yep, it looks like this is the problem.
>
>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 18:24, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:10:27PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>> Yes, looks like this function does not do at all what I think it
>>>> should be doing. I'll remove the call, thanks for tracking this
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've tracked it down to something in org-open file. It gets past the
>>> "No such file: " clause. Efs seems to be functioning well enough up
>>> until the point where the file actually gets opened.
>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 17:03, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:47:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also ":" needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
>>>>>>> (defconst org-link-escape-chars '((":" . ":") ("[" . "%5B") ("]"
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> "%5D") (" " . "%20"))
>>>>>>> "Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
>>>>>>> links.")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a typo in this setting? The above setting should lead
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> infinite loop, because you keep replacing ":" with ":" when
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> escape the link characters. And as far as I can see, org-mode
>>>>>> passes
>>>>>> the file name right through to `find-file'. Could anyone try to
>>>>>> reporduce this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, it was a quick hack that seemed to work, and now for some
>>>>> reason does not. The issue itself still exists though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tracked it down to the convert-standard-filename call in
>>>>> org-open-file. If i remove the convert-standard-filename, it does
>>>>> not
>>>>> recognize it as an efs type file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway convert-standard-filename is what mangles efs type file
>>>>> links. My guess is that it may be related to the C:\\filename
>>>>> problem
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carsten Dominik
>>>> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
>>>> Universiteit van Amsterdam
>>>> Kruislaan 403
>>>> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
>>>> phone: +31 20 525 7477
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tim.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Carsten Dominik
>> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
>> Universiteit van Amsterdam
>> Kruislaan 403
>> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
>> phone: +31 20 525 7477
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Tim.
>
>
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Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
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phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 17:13 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-20 17:29 ` Tim O'Callaghan
2006-06-20 17:33 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Tim O'Callaghan @ 2006-06-20 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 07:13:17PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Maybe I should force efs/tramp file names to be opened with Emacs/.
>
> What is the best and most general way to test if a file name is efs
> or tramp or ange-ftp?
>
For tramp you'll need to RTM, but for efs its /[user@]host:/[file path]
IIRC ange-ftp uses the same syntax as efs.
You cold change the extension filter to a regexp filter i guess.
Tim.
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 17:29 ` Tim O'Callaghan
@ 2006-06-20 17:33 ` Carsten Dominik
2006-06-21 0:15 ` Michael Olson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-20 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim O'Callaghan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
I just found file-remote-p, which may be the right solution.
- Carsten
On Jun 20, 2006, at 19:29, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 07:13:17PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Maybe I should force efs/tramp file names to be opened with Emacs/.
>>
>> What is the best and most general way to test if a file name is efs
>> or tramp or ange-ftp?
>>
>
> For tramp you'll need to RTM, but for efs its /[user@]host:/[file path]
> IIRC ange-ftp uses the same syntax as efs.
>
> You cold change the extension filter to a regexp filter i guess.
>
> Tim.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-20 17:33 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2006-06-21 0:15 ` Michael Olson
2006-06-21 4:55 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Michael Olson @ 2006-06-21 0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> I just found file-remote-p, which may be the right solution.
XEmacs and Emacs22 both have this function, but in case you need
backwards compatibility with Emacs21, feel free to use something like
the following. This handles both Tramp and ange-ftp file specifiers.
(defun org-file-remote-p (file)
"Test whether FILE specifies a location on a remote system.
Return non-nil if the location is indeed remote.
For example, the filename \"/user@host:/foo\" specifies a location
on the system \"/user@host:\"."
(cond ((fboundp 'file-remote-p)
(file-remote-p file))
((fboundp 'tramp-handle-file-remote-p)
(tramp-handle-file-remote-p file))
((and (boundp 'ange-ftp-name-format)
(string-match ange-ftp-name-format file))
t)
(t nil)))
--
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Interests: Emacs Lisp, text markup, protocols -- Jabber: mwolson_at_hcoop.net
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* Re: Re: Attention XEmacs users
2006-06-21 0:15 ` Michael Olson
@ 2006-06-21 4:55 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-06-21 4:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Olson; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
This is excellent, thank you very much.
- Carsten
On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:15, Michael Olson wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> I just found file-remote-p, which may be the right solution.
>
> XEmacs and Emacs22 both have this function, but in case you need
> backwards compatibility with Emacs21, feel free to use something like
> the following. This handles both Tramp and ange-ftp file specifiers.
>
> (defun org-file-remote-p (file)
> "Test whether FILE specifies a location on a remote system.
> Return non-nil if the location is indeed remote.
>
> For example, the filename \"/user@host:/foo\" specifies a location
> on the system \"/user@host:\"."
> (cond ((fboundp 'file-remote-p)
> (file-remote-p file))
> ((fboundp 'tramp-handle-file-remote-p)
> (tramp-handle-file-remote-p file))
> ((and (boundp 'ange-ftp-name-format)
> (string-match ange-ftp-name-format file))
> t)
> (t nil)))
>
> --
> Michael Olson -- FSF Associate Member #652 -- http://www.mwolson.org/
> Interests: Emacs Lisp, text markup, protocols -- Jabber:
> mwolson_at_hcoop.net
> /` |\ | | | IRC: mwolson on freenode.net: #hcoop, #muse, #PurdueLUG
> |_] | \| |_| Project involvement: Emacs, Muse, Planner, ERC, EMMS
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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