From: Simon Thum <simon.thum@gmx.de>
To: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Web site bug
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:15:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <508C08A9.4020409@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871ugks721.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>
Hi Bastien,
thanks a lot for clarifying this. One nit left, see below.
I'm having a look at putting a summary in worg.
Thanks,
Simon
On 10/27/2012 09:33 AM, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Simon Thum<simon.thum@gmx.de> writes:
>
>> Sorry but to me this just worsens the (or my) confusion around
>> org-install.
>>
>> In git we find this org-install.el:
>>
>> ;;; org-install.el --- autogenerated file, do not edit
>> ;;
>> ;;; Code:
>> (warn "The file org-install is obsolete.
>> Please change your configuration to (require 'org) instead.")
>
> Yes, this was confusing. I updated this file like this
>
> ;;; org-install.el --- backward compatibility file for obsolete configuration
> ;;
> ;;; Code:
> (warn "The file org-install is obsolete.
> It is provided here so that (require 'org-install) does not
> trigger an error for users with obsolete Emacs configuration.
> You can safely remove (require 'org-install) from your config.")
Judging from what you say further down there are use-cases left where
this is bad advice, namely the distribution archives and git.
>
> (provide 'org-install)
>
> ;; Local Variables:
> ;; no-byte-compile: t
> ;; coding: utf-8
> ;; End:
> ;;; org-install.el ends here
>
> I hope it is clearer.
>
>> Apart from it not being autogenerated, it's confusing that I should use
>> org instead.
>
> Indeed. The main message is: you don't need (require 'org-install)
> anymore. It used to be needed to get the correct autoloads but it is
> not anymore, as autoloads are taken from org-autoloads.el, which is
> either provided (in the distrib tar.gz/zip archives) or dynamically
> generated (from "make").
>
>> Which is the recommended thing in what setup? If ELPA needs not even 'org,
>> which AFAIK is not the case, then what? And what about git installs?
>
> If you use Org from Emacs, you don't need anything.
>
> If you use Org from the distribution archives, you need to add the
> directory with the extracted directory in your load-path and to add
> (require 'org) after adding the Org directory to the load-path.
>
> If you use Org from git, you need the above plus runing "make" or
> "make autoloads" so that the correct autoloads are loaded.
>
> If you use Org from ELPA, you just need to add (package-initialize)
> before any Org configuration of the type (setq org-* ...).
>
>> I guess I'm wholly confused now.
>
> I hope I helped to clarify things.
>
> I also remove any reference to org-install in
> http://orgmode.org/elpa.html since the ELPA archive is produced
> from maint, which is>7.9.2 anyway.
>
> Thanks for the heads up,
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-27 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-24 20:36 Web site bug Simon Thum
2012-10-24 22:42 ` Bastien
2012-10-26 19:57 ` Simon Thum
2012-10-27 7:33 ` Bastien
2012-10-27 8:54 ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-10-27 9:06 ` Bastien
2012-10-28 7:36 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-28 10:29 ` Bastien
2012-10-28 16:12 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-29 6:57 ` Bastien
2012-10-29 7:29 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-29 7:33 ` Bastien
2012-10-29 7:48 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-29 8:56 ` Eric S Fraga
2012-10-29 6:56 ` Bastien
2012-10-29 7:02 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-29 7:07 ` Bastien
2012-10-27 16:15 ` Simon Thum [this message]
2012-10-27 19:37 ` Bastien
2012-10-27 8:01 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-27 8:28 ` Bastien
2012-10-27 11:11 ` Achim Gratz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-20 16:11 web " Robert Klein
2010-07-25 16:26 ` David Maus
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