From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Trevor Vartanoff Subject: Re: org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <5063B55B.9030604@codepuzzles.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TH3Xq-0005wk-Pr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:09:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TH3Xq-0001xK-0R for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:09:42 -0400 Received: from p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([72.167.82.83]:56274) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TH3Xp-0001xG-NF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:09:41 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, n.goaziou@gmail.com Jonathan, I should have been more clear on what I meant by "basic", quite idiotic of me and sorry for the confusion. If you write ten words on ten lines, you can't shift things around anymore until you've put everything into an Official Orgmode Endorsed Structure of some kind. Sometimes I don't need to bother. Sometimes while I'm creating the list, I don't decide until later whether to make it headings or list, and I need to be able to shift its items around first. Org-mode successfully taught me that I can move _everything_ around. I've happily adapted to this freedom, and now it wants to take it away. So, I apologize for my whining, but to me it it is as unexpected as if I updated Emacs and the macros stopped working.