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From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
To: Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Idea, configurable markup
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:04:18 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e78ab76.07cf640a.3077.4d23@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80k494wdmm.fsf@somewhere.org>


When I moved from Planner/Muse to Org, the ability to define custom markup
with <something>...</something> is the only thing I missed as well as the
ability to easily toggle between hide and show the markup (I thing it was
C-c C-l, but I'm not sure). This was a small thing to pay considering
everything else org-mode offered in exchange, but it would be nice to have
thi flexibility in org.

--
Darlan

At Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:12:01 +0200,
"Sebastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dov,
> 
> Dov Grobgeld wrote:
> > I got the following idea regarding the use of markup characters in org-mode.
> > Currently it is possible to use *bold*, /italic/ and ~verbose~ and a few
> > other markups. I would have liked to have this extended as follows:
> >
> >    - Allow the toggling of the display of the "formatting" characters, *, ~,
> >    /, etc.
> 
> It's already in there:
> 
> 1. Choose to get them hidden by default with:
> 
>    #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>      (setq org-hide-emphasis-markers t)
>    #+end_src
> 
> 2. Make them (dis-)appear by toggling visible-mode.
> 
> >    - Allow a system that allows the user to invent his own formatting. E.g.
> >    «variable», 〈function〉, $math$, ⌞string⌟, or whatever the user fancies. All
> >    these modes should be defined in an org-mode variable and the display
> >    attributes should be configurable, just like any other custom org-mode font.
> >    If the user wants to expand beyond ASCII it should be up to him.
> >    - Alternately, use a system like "<var>variable</var>" where the tag var
> >    is user definable, just like the magic characters above. The display of the
> >    tags should be toggable. Just like for [file:foo.bar] where the [] character
> >    are hidden, should the tags be hidden until someone erases one of the two
> >    delimiters.
> >
> > Note that this is nothing more than ideas at the moment, and I'll probably
> > never get around to implement any of it. Still I thought I'd share it if
> > someone would like to have a go.
> 
> Regarding inventing new formatting and having them correctly exported, this is
> already there as well:
> 
> See:
> 
> - `org-emphasis-alist' for face in Emacs and code to HTML
> - `org-export-latex-emphasis-alist' for code to LaTeX
> 
> So, already done (by others!).
> 
> Just a comment on this: I would be in favor of having one or two extra formats
> _by default_ -- so that it's not relying on my .emacs config file; in fact, as
> much as in TeXinfo...
> 
> Currently, as "special" formats[1], we only have:
> 
> - org-code, and
> - org-verbatim.
> 
> And the use case is not that clear to me (how do you code a URL, a filename,
> an argument or a key binding?), as both finally gets resolved to the same
> appearance (in HTML, and almost the same in LaTeX).
> 
> In TeXinfo, it seems to me we have at least:
> 
> - url,
> - code,
> - key binding,
> 
> not speaking of internal references.
> 
> I'd be glad if we could get the same "expressivety", by default, as the one we
> have in TeXinfo[2].
> 
> Best regards,
>   Seb
> 
> Footnotes:
> 
> [1] I mean: other than bold, italic, underline and striken-through.
> [2] Never wrote any line in TeXinfo, but simply had to read a couple.
> 
> -- 
> Sebastien Vauban
> 
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2011-09-20 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-19 18:38 Dov Grobgeld
2011-09-19 18:47 ` Eric Schulte
2011-09-19 19:12 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-09-20 15:04   ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira [this message]

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