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From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
To: mail@christianmoe.com
Cc: Orgmode Mailing List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [babel] How to set multiple variables with properties
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:38:09 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e029907.a6c0ec0a.1025.4034@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0233F4.4000201@christianmoe.com>


One of the things I tried (that didn't work, otherwise I would not have
sent any e-mail) was
:PROPERTY:
:var: variable1="value1" :var variable2="value2"
:END:

I thought that maybe babel would just ask org what is the value of :var:,
put ":var" before it, and include this in the block header. Therefore I
would get the effect of adding
":var variable1="value1" :var variable2="value2""
in the block header and it could work.

However, even if this method had worked It would not be flexible. One of
the nice things about properties is inheritance. I would like to define
"general variables" as properties in level-1 headings and define more
specific variables in the sub-headings as necessary. However, if babel
always use :var: as the property then defining a variable in a subheading
will overwrite the upper level variable.

The best option in my use-case-scenario would be some name scheme to
identify variable definitions for org-babel. For instance
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
:PROPERTY:
:ob-someVariable:      "some string maybe with\nline breaks"
:ob-someOtherVariable: 123456
:END:
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
would make the variables "someVariable" and "someOtherVariable" known to
org-babel.

--
Darlan Cavalcante

At Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:27:00 +0200,
Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I was referring to these functions:
> - org-entry-put-multivalued-property
> - org-entry-get-multivalued-property
> - org-entry-add-to-multivalued-property
> - org-entry-remove-from-multivalued-property
> - org-entry-member-in-multivalued-property
> described here:
> http://orgmode.org/manual/Using-the-property-API.html
> 
> I've found a few discussions:
> - http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/33457
> - http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-02/msg00251.html
> 
> I don't have anything working with them, as such,[1] and I was curious 
> if anyone did. They don't currently seem to be integrated into 
> completion, search functions, Babel, and so on, which would limit 
> their usefulness (though searching can be done with regexps). And I 
> think implementing wider support for them would run into a problem 
> with distinguishing between properties that are meant to be 
> multivalued, or and properties that just contain a single value which 
> happens to contain spaces.
> 
> But handling multiple var=value expressions in a :var: property for 
> Babel, as Darlan asked about, might perhaps be doable...? Stuff might 
> break, though.
> 
> Yours,
> Christian
> 
> 
> [1] I do have a small research database with some "multivalued" 
> properties in it. For queries, I use your org-collector and regular 
> expression matching against properties with multiple values. The 
> multivalued-properties functions didn't really come into it, except 
> that knowing they were there made me go ahead and put multiple values 
> in one property. (As it turned out, that wasn't a very good design 
> choice.)
> 
> On 6/21/11 11:03 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > That's the first I've heard of that variable?  If you do get something
> > working with multivalued properties please do share.
> >
> > Cheers -- Eric
> >
> > Christian Moe<mail@christianmoe.com>  writes:
> >
> >> Hi, Eric,
> >>
> >> Just curious: What about the org-entry--multivalued-property functions
> >> mentioned in "Using the properties API"?
> >>
> >> Is anybody using multivalued properties for anything?
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/21/11 10:17 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:
> >>> Unfortunately org-mode properties only allow a single entry for any
> >>> given key, so you can only specify one variable using properties.
> >>>
> >>> However the following workaround does exist.
> >>>
> >>> *** alternative
> >>>       :PROPERTIES:
> >>>       :var:      vars=variables
> >>>       :END:
> >>>
> >>> #+tblname: variables
> >>> | var1 | 1 |
> >>> | var2 | 2 |
> >>>
> >>> #+begin_src python
> >>>     print vars[0][1]
> >>>     print vars[1][1]
> >>> #+end_src
> >>>
> >>> Best -- Eric
> >>>
> >>> Darlan Cavalcante Moreira<darcamo@gmail.com>   writes:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm using org-babel to automate a few tasks and I'd like to define a few
> >>>> variables that are common to several code blocks as sub-tree properties.
> >>>>
> >>>> It works when I have only one variable, where I can use
> >>>> * Heading
> >>>>     :PROPERTY:
> >>>>     :var: variable1="value1"
> >>>>     :END:
> >>>>     #+begin_src python :results output
> >>>>       print variable1
> >>>>     #+end_src
> >>>>
> >>>>     #+results:
> >>>>     : value1
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it possible to set multiples variables in this way?
> >>>> I tried things like
> >>>> :PROPERTY:
> >>>> :var: variable1="value1" variable2="value2"
> >>>> :END:
> >>>>
> >>>> :PROPERTY:
> >>>> :var: variable1="value1",variable2="value2"
> >>>> :END:
> >>>>
> >>>> :PROPERTY:
> >>>> :variable1: "value1"
> >>>> :variable2: "value2"
> >>>> :END:
> >>>> but none of them worked.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Darlan Cavalcante
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-23  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-21 18:42 [babel] How to set multiple variables with properties Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2011-06-21 20:17 ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-21 21:01   ` Christian Moe
2011-06-21 21:03     ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-22 18:27       ` Christian Moe
2011-06-23  1:38         ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira [this message]
2011-06-24  5:28           ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-24  5:25         ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-22  1:03   ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira

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