From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Neil Smithline Subject: Re: mail integration, advice? Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:00:53 -0400 Message-ID: <4F9C92C5.4000105@neilsmithline.com> References: <87ipgm1mqk.fsf@pank.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SOIVY-0005ca-ER for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:01:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SOIVW-0001W1-4m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:01:00 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:63243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SOIVW-0001Vl-0i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:00:58 -0400 Received: by qabg27 with SMTP id g27so1111067qab.0 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:00:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ipgm1mqk.fsf@pank.eu> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rasmus Cc: Org Mode On 4/26 12:28, Rasmus wrote: > Arch updates wl often. Latest package is three months old. > > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/wanderlust/ Rasmus, I don't think that Arch is really updating WL. I took a look at most of the commits at http://bit.ly/JQkshB and think they are only bumping the Arch version number and packaging. I didn't see any changes to the elisp. To the best of my knowledge, most if not all maintenance on WL ended several years ago. I decided to avoid WL because of this and the similar lack of maintenance on FLIM and APEL. Neil Smithline http://www.neilsmithline.com Proud GNU Emacs user since 1986, v. 18.24. On 4/26 12:28 , Rasmus wrote: > Matt Price writes: > >> I'd like to take one more shot at returning to text-based email within >> emacs, mostly because I want to be able to integrate mail easily into >> my org-mode workflow. > > It's worth it. > >> The last time I tried this I used wanderlust, >> and I'd be willing to give it a try again but a couple of things have >> discouraged me in the past: > > I used wl but switched to Gnus. > >> - wl causes emacs to freeze up when it checks or sends mail, and can >> take quite a long while to complete these operations > > I know of no solution to this. You could run a dedicated Gnus process > if it bothers you. > >> - wl seems to have gone quasi-dormant, with very little activity on >> the mailing list and no recent releases; it also relies on two other >> packages, FLIM and APEL, with similarly dormant mailing lists > > Arch updates wl often. Latest package is three months old. > > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/wanderlust/ > >> - allow me to continue using Thunderbird as a backup for e.g. images >> and highly formatted mails -- thunderbird is currently set up w/ local >> copies of IMAP folders for my current mail, plus local archives served >> on by dovecot that can be accessed both by thunderbird and by e.g. >> wanderlust. > > Message-mode handles txt mails well. There is some org extension for > html mails (although I don't like html mails). > > IMAP should be fine. You can run it local if you want. I do > offlineimap + dovecot. > >> - fast search and easy-to-manage virtual folders of some kind -- I see >> mu and notmuch are very strong on both these fronts > > notmuch and mu4emacs are probably also easier to set up. > >> - easy, stable harvesting of email-based data through org-capture > > Use bbdb3. > >> (if possible, this should allow me to archive a message and still be >> able to find it when I follow an org message link) > > You can capture gnus mails through org-capture. I don't know how robust > the links are. > >> - would be nice if configuration didn't require TONS of lisp code, a I >> am a very slow coder and these kinds of configuration tasks can be >> very daunting for me. > > I have tons of list configuration for Gnus. . . But half of it is for > weird stuff such as random signature, random `avatar', several SMTP etc. > >> - shouldn't slow down my workflow too much -- I should be able to very >> quickly check my email then return to an org buffer to continue >> writing. > > I have F9 bring up the Gnus Group buffer. G for update. Elegant > auto-fetching of new mails from foreign imap is something I have not > solved yet. >