From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: C-c / r key-setting bug (?)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:50:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F0270B7-39D0-41D4-ADC2-8CF2C9AF3E5D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CC0354F.8020205@easy-emacs.de>
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
> [ ... ]
>>>> C-c / will prompt for another key and then dispatch depending on
>>>> that
>>>> key.
>>>> Many do.
>>>
>>> Hmm, that would fit into the already mentioned coding-style
>>> category.
>>> Is it wise to do it that way?
>>> For example M-x describe-mode fails telling about these keys.
>>> Are reasons for this?
>>
>> Yes. There are not enough keys, unless I introduce a larger number
>> of full-scale prefix keys. And it is much easier to remember just
>> `C-c
>> /' and then get a friendly prompt for a number of options. For
>> interactive use, I think this is just perfect.
>>
>> Now, if you want to write programs based on these functions, then you
>> want to have the real command names. This is one of the reasons why I
>> like to have them in the manual, for look up.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm following, thanks for the explanation.
> Remains a describe-mode bug than (?)
>
>
>>>
>>> Sincerely undecided here, just a question.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To simplify you work, you can just leave these keys unchanged in
>>>> the
>>>> manual,and I will take a look at those later.
>>>
>>> Remains something to do anyway IMHO.
>>>
>>> First a creating command is mentioned, after it says "showing".
>>>
>>> @orgcmd{C-c /,org-sparse-tree}
>>> This prompts for an extra key to select a sparse-tree creating
>>> command.
>>>
>>> ;;;;;;;
>>>
>>> @kindex C-c / r
>>> @item C-c / r
>>> @vindex org-remove-highlights-with-change
>>> Occur. Prompts for a regexp and shows a sparse tree with all
>>> matches. If
>>
>> In this end, this should simply be
>>
>> @orgcmd{C-c / r, org-occur}
>
> May you update the doku?
> BTW if the first key branches to other key, would help folks like me
> to know... Maybe saying: Is a generic key invoking...
>
>>
>> Because the dispatcher command will call this command after "r" has
>> been
>> pressed.
>>
>> But as I said, I can do these indirect calls pretty easily, I know
>> most
>> of them by heart.
>>
>
> Thanks. Should get it from var last-command already.
>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>
> Still an issue:
>
> No brand of Emacs org-mode knows org-occur here
>
> M-x where-is org-occur
>
> ==>
>
> org-occur is not on any key
>
> Also when C-c / is pressed, there is no `r'-key displayed,
> see screenshot.
As I have been trying to explain during this thread, Emacs does
not know that org-occur is can be reached through `C-c / r'.
So where-is cannot give you a reply.
This is not a bug, it is in the nature of the dispatcher
commands Org-mode uses.
- Carsten
>
>
> Andreas
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-21 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-21 10:37 C-c / r key-setting bug (?) Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 10:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-21 11:44 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 11:52 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-21 12:42 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 13:00 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-21 13:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 14:04 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-21 14:11 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 14:31 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-21 14:53 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 15:33 ` Jambunathan K
2010-10-21 16:36 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-21 20:50 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-10-22 7:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-22 7:49 ` Carsten Dominik
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