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From: Christoph LANGE <ch.lange@jacobs-university.de>
To: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>
Cc: Christian Egli <christian.egli@sbs.ch>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to estimate effort by week?
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:09:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ED379E5.2000002@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r514gmap.fsf@norang.ca>

Hi Bernt,

thanks a lot for your advice.  Sorry, but it took some time until I 
found the time for trying it.  I think I understood how it works.  Below 
I just have some minor questions.

2011-11-19 16:32 Bernt Hansen:
> Is this to help limit you to that time per week or for estimating?

Indeed I was interested in limiting the time that I spend on some task.

> For limiting you can set up something like this:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> * STARTED Some task
     ^^^^^^^

OK, so this example uses another TOOD keyword, which I haven't had 
before.  I understand that your example also works without introducing a 
new state, but I'm not yet sure what TODO states I need to use this 
feature most efficiently.  See below for a more specific question about 
that.

> SCHEDULED:<2011-11-21 Mon +1w>
> :LOGBOOK:
> - State "DONE"       from "STARTED"    [2011-11-19 Sat 10:27]

If I understand correctly, this mainly follows the habit tracking 
documented on the info page "Tracking your habits" – right?

> CLOCK: [2011-11-19 Sat 10:25]--[2011-11-19 Sat 10:27] =>   0:02
> CLOCK: [2011-11-19 Sat 09:28]--[2011-11-19 Sat 10:27] =>   0:59
> :END:
> :PROPERTIES:
> :Effort: 1:00
> :LAST_REPEAT: [2011-11-19 Sat 10:27]
> :END:
> Limit work to 60 minutes per week
> Let it repeat for next week
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> where the task repeats at some interval (weekly since you want to work
> up to 1 hour per week on this task).  When you clock in the task the
> modeline shows your current clocked minutes on the task _since your last
> repeat_.

OK, that's basically what I wanted to achieve, and it's very nice that 
the clocked minutes are also shown in a warning face here when I exceed 
the limit.

> Set your Effort property to the limit you want for the task for the
> interval and set your repeat to the size of your interval (1 hour per
> week in this case)
>
> So when you reach the limit of 1 hour (in this case) you mark the task
> DONE which stops the clock and rescheduled the task to the next repeat
> date.

More realistically I won't do that after one hour, but continue working 
on that task (with a guilty conscience), and then mark it DONE around 
the end of the week ;-)

OK, I see that marking such a task as DONE does not actually leave it in 
the DONE state but takes it back to the first TODO state.  So far I had 
the TODO sequence "TODO DELEGATED | DONE CANCELLED" and tried to extend 
it to "TODO DELEGATED STARTED | DONE CANCELLED", but that would take my 
repeating task back to "TODO" instead of "STARTED" after marking it 
DONE.  I think a separate sequence of states would make more sense; 
maybe "STARTED | RESTARTED"?

> When you clock the task in again the modeline shows 0:00 and counts up
> to the effort limit again.

Cheers,

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Lange, http://www.facebook.com/ch.lange, Skype duke4701

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-28 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-18 14:59 How to estimate effort by week? Christoph LANGE
2011-11-18 16:32 ` Christian Egli
2011-11-18 16:51   ` Christoph LANGE
2011-11-19 15:32     ` Bernt Hansen
2011-11-28 12:09       ` Christoph LANGE [this message]
2011-11-28 18:43         ` Bernt Hansen

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