* plus in superscript.
@ 2011-09-14 16:32 Piter_
2011-09-14 16:55 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Piter_ @ 2011-09-14 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi all. I try to put a superscript in org-mode in this way: T^{+}. But
it gets exported in latex as $^{\st{}$. Any idea how to avoid it?
Thanks.
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-14 16:32 plus in superscript Piter_
@ 2011-09-14 16:55 ` Nick Dokos
2011-09-14 17:21 ` Christian Moe
2011-09-14 22:29 ` suvayu ali
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2011-09-14 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Piter_; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode
Piter_ <x.piter@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all. I try to put a superscript in org-mode in this way: T^{+}. But
> it gets exported in latex as $^{\st{}$. Any idea how to avoid it?
> Thanks.
>
{Super,sub}scripts are latex math constructs - try the following:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
* This is a test: \(T^{+}\)
And inline: \(T^{+}\) and displayed: \[T^{+}\]
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Nick
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-14 16:55 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2011-09-14 17:21 ` Christian Moe
2011-09-14 17:28 ` Nick Dokos
2011-09-14 22:29 ` suvayu ali
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From: Christian Moe @ 2011-09-14 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Piter_
But latex subscripts/superscripts should work in Org even without an
explicit math environment, and they do for me -- exporting Piter's
T^{+} gives me
T$^{+}$
as expected. Something in his setup?
Yours,
Christian
On 9/14/11 6:55 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:
> Piter_<x.piter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all. I try to put a superscript in org-mode in this way: T^{+}. But
>> it gets exported in latex as $^{\st{}$. Any idea how to avoid it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> {Super,sub}scripts are latex math constructs - try the following:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> * This is a test: \(T^{+}\)
>
> And inline: \(T^{+}\) and displayed: \[T^{+}\]
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Nick
>
>
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-14 17:21 ` Christian Moe
@ 2011-09-14 17:28 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2011-09-14 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mail; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode, Piter_
Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote:
> But latex subscripts/superscripts should work in Org even without an
> explicit math environment, and they do for me -- exporting Piter's
> T^{+} gives me
>
> T$^{+}$
>
> as expected. Something in his setup?
>
You are right - sorry about the noise.
Nick
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-14 16:55 ` Nick Dokos
2011-09-14 17:21 ` Christian Moe
@ 2011-09-14 22:29 ` suvayu ali
2011-09-15 7:19 ` Nick Dokos
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From: suvayu ali @ 2011-09-14 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Piter_
Hi Nick,
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
> * This is a test: \(T^{+}\)
Apart from what Christian said, do you have any comments about $..$
and \(..\) ? I hear conflicting arguments about which is preferred
(e.g. $..$ is a TeX construct where as \(..\) is a LaTeX macro arguing
in favour of $..$). Specially an opinion in the context of org ->
latex export would be interesting to hear.
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-14 22:29 ` suvayu ali
@ 2011-09-15 7:19 ` Nick Dokos
2011-09-15 7:43 ` Christian Moe
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2011-09-15 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: suvayu ali; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode, Piter_
suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
> > * This is a test: \(T^{+}\)
>
> Apart from what Christian said, do you have any comments about $..$
> and \(..\) ? I hear conflicting arguments about which is preferred
> (e.g. $..$ is a TeX construct where as \(..\) is a LaTeX macro arguing
> in favour of $..$). Specially an opinion in the context of org ->
> latex export would be interesting to hear.
>
As far as LaTeX is concerned, I believe that $...$ and \(...\) are
entirely equivalent (but you have to use \[...\], and not $$...$$ for
displayed material). That's from reading Lamport's book: sec 3.3 and
Appendix E (the "Miscellaneous" section); I have not checked the code.
I prefer \(...\) and (iirc) sometimes that has worked when $...$ has
not, but I don't remember the context; afaik those (rare) situations
were deemed to be bugs in the exporter and have all been fixed.
Nick
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-15 7:19 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2011-09-15 7:43 ` Christian Moe
2011-09-15 7:44 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Christian Moe @ 2011-09-15 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Piter_
Hi,
$...$ may sometimes get confused with currency signs, variable names
and whatnot.
Org-mode is sophisticated about it as long as you follow a few
safeguards -- from the Info section 11.7.3:
To avoid conflicts
with currency specifications, single `$' characters are only
recognized as math delimiters if the enclosed text contains at
most two line breaks, is directly attached to the `$' characters
with no whitespace in between, and if the closing `$' is followed
by whitespace, punctuation or a dash. For the other delimiters,
there is no such restriction, so when in doubt, use `\(...\)' as
inline math delimiters.
But note that MathJax, the preferred backend for math in Org's HTML
exports, does not support $...$ by default. To configure it, see:
http://www.mathjax.org/docs/1.1/tex.html#tex-and-latex-math-delimiters
Yours,
Christian
On 9/15/11 9:19 AM, Nick Dokos wrote:
> suvayu ali<fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
>>> * This is a test: \(T^{+}\)
>>
>> Apart from what Christian said, do you have any comments about $..$
>> and \(..\) ? I hear conflicting arguments about which is preferred
>> (e.g. $..$ is a TeX construct where as \(..\) is a LaTeX macro arguing
>> in favour of $..$). Specially an opinion in the context of org ->
>> latex export would be interesting to hear.
>>
>
> As far as LaTeX is concerned, I believe that $...$ and \(...\) are
> entirely equivalent (but you have to use \[...\], and not $$...$$ for
> displayed material). That's from reading Lamport's book: sec 3.3 and
> Appendix E (the "Miscellaneous" section); I have not checked the code.
>
> I prefer \(...\) and (iirc) sometimes that has worked when $...$ has
> not, but I don't remember the context; afaik those (rare) situations
> were deemed to be bugs in the exporter and have all been fixed.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-15 7:43 ` Christian Moe
@ 2011-09-15 7:44 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-09-15 8:23 ` Christian Moe
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2011-09-15 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mail; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode, Piter_
On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Christian Moe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> $...$ may sometimes get confused with currency signs, variable names and whatnot.
>
> Org-mode is sophisticated about it as long as you follow a few safeguards -- from the Info section 11.7.3:
>
> To avoid conflicts
> with currency specifications, single `$' characters are only
> recognized as math delimiters if the enclosed text contains at
> most two line breaks, is directly attached to the `$' characters
> with no whitespace in between, and if the closing `$' is followed
> by whitespace, punctuation or a dash. For the other delimiters,
> there is no such restriction, so when in doubt, use `\(...\)' as
> inline math delimiters.
>
> But note that MathJax, the preferred backend for math in Org's HTML exports, does not support $...$ by default. To configure it, see:
>
> http://www.mathjax.org/docs/1.1/tex.html#tex-and-latex-math-delimiters
When Org exports to HTML for use with MathJax, it does convert $..$ to \(..\) to work around this.
Still, parsing $...$ is much harder than parsing \(..\), so most of the time, using \(//\) will give better and more stable results with Org-mode.
- Carsten
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* Re: plus in superscript.
2011-09-15 7:44 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2011-09-15 8:23 ` Christian Moe
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From: Christian Moe @ 2011-09-15 8:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode, Piter_
On 9/15/11 9:44 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> When Org exports to HTML for use with MathJax, it does convert $..$ to \(..\) to work around this.
Oops, I should have guessed. I just remembered having to fiddle with
my MathJax configuration at one point, but that was probably before
Org even switched from dvipng to MathJax as default.
> Still, parsing $...$ is much harder than parsing \(..\), so most of the time, using \(//\) will give better and more stable results with Org-mode.
And a good deal more readable.
Christian
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