From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Torsten Wagner Subject: Re: Status google calendar sync Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:15:51 +0900 Message-ID: <4D48E887.20900@gmail.com> References: <8762t3idd3.fsf@gmx.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36929 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PkV83-00074X-AW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:19:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PkV4Q-0008DY-3O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:15:59 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:36368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PkV4P-0008DU-QO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:15:58 -0500 Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so63862pwj.0 for ; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:15:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8762t3idd3.fsf@gmx.ch> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sven Bretfeld Cc: Org Mode Mailing List > There is yet another possibility. Use ConnectBot to connect to a PC > running Emacs (daemon). I use MobileOrg for task planning, todo lists > etc. But when I write a longer text, I use ConnectBot started with the > option 'emacsclient -t --eval "(ibuffer)"'. It is like having a native > Emacs on the phone. Press the icon, and Emacs is there after 3 seconds. > If you use Swype as input-method, you can even write long texts very > fast. Meta and Ctrl are available (press trackball once [CTRL] or twice > [Meta], press trackball followed by i for TAB). Hi Sven, thanks for reminding me. Yes, this is indeed a nice option I used for some time. At the moment, I try to get a Bluetooth Keyboard working with my HTC Desire and put it together with the phone into a small leather case which allows me to use the phone as display and the keyboard in front of it. The total size will be approximately the size the phone only the thickness is doubled. It would be something like my computer-on-the-go-reduced-to-the-essential-part unit. Perfect for business trips, checking/writing mails, writing or doing extensive org-mode stuff on the go. On the other hand, I would prefer to take only the phone for daily usage at places where a PC is easy available (e.g., in the office). In that case I would prefer to use a GUI like mobileorg which allows me to perform very quick org-mode tasks (adding a new appointment, check my schedule for the next 7 days, add a todo, etc.) Basically, mobileorg tries to do that but all the parsing, sorting and data manipulation stuff is done on the android phone in native Java. Therefore, Matthew (the main developer) is busy (I guess) by reimplementing org-mode functions in Java which runs perfectly fine in elisp already. Thus, I wonder if an approach "in the middle" might be the best. Using a GUI like mobileorg. Every command (button-press) is actually translated in a org-mode elisp call send via ssh to an emacs daemon on a server machine. The emacs daemon processes the request and sends the result back. Result get catched by the GUI and displayed in a nice easy understandable way specifically customized to the small screen of mobile phones. This approach would have several benefits: * Changes in org-mode would directly work on the mobile version (at least in a kind of raw-mode which simply shows the answer of the daemon as text). * Whenever we can make emacs run locally on the phone itself it would only require to replace the server address by "localhost" resulting in an offline version. * People could work on different machines if they need. * Depending on the power consumption of 3G/Wifi and the data transmission speed, it might be less power hungry to use a server approach compared to a standalone version (I'm totally unsure about that, but often wifi is on for other reasons, in that case sending and receiving data to an emacs dameon would not cost additional battery at all.) The interface to org-mode for a mobileorg-client could be created in an additional layer in a similar form like org-babel. Simply providing commands to extract or inject certain data and send/receive them in a way both sides can understand easily. It would not disturb the main development of org-mode and might even result in a general org-mode API for many other possible integrations with org-mode (e.g., interfacing to Thunderbird, Firefox, Openoffice, shell, etc.). In some way, since we had this already mentioned during this discussion it would be like the Google Calendar API. All the best Totti