From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Moe Subject: Re: Request for opinions: [ANN] List improvement v.2o Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:38:46 +0200 Message-ID: <4C6B8E06.9070503@christianmoe.com> References: <87ocdzw7gq.wl%n.goaziou@gmail.com> <17A93AC0-1896-481D-B2E9-E1DA5879A1D0@gmail.com> Reply-To: mail@christianmoe.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47414 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OldDv-0006LI-F0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:38:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OldDu-0006kL-9n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:38:11 -0400 Received: from mars.hitrost.net ([91.185.193.39]:21928) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OldDu-0006k7-35 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:38:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <17A93AC0-1896-481D-B2E9-E1DA5879A1D0@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: Org Mode List , Nicolas Goaziou Carsten Dominik wrote: > 2. Some existing documents will break because we now need an end-of-list > that is clearly defined, and not by indentation. Nicolas proposes a > double empty line or some special string to be defined. Breaking > existing > documents is always bad, of cause. I still hope we can do something > about this if we think really hard, like making text that is less > indented than the list *also* terminate a list. > +1 Ending lists by indentation most closely resembles how one would end a list in ordinary typed prose (with a single blank line before a following paragraph, not two, certainly not with an end-of-list symbol). Since Org is currently capable of understanding this "natural" syntax, the change would be a real step backwards. Speaking for myself I know it would break a *lot* of my stuff. Otherwise, Nicolas Goaziou's changes look nice. I hope a way can be found to have it both ways. Yours, Christian