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From: Andreas Roehler <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: footnote renumber bug
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:02:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A4F0C97.2090102@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0D680B96-4638-44E1-8351-3E6E4F89A404@gmail.com>

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> after reopening a file with two footnotes inside,
>> inserting a third footnote between first and second, it
>> fails to renumber it.
>>
>> below the test-buffer
>>
>> Should I'm right so far --even seeing footnote reimplemented-- maybe
>> have a look at
>>
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/footnote-init.el
>>
>>
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/GNU-Emacs-footnote.diff
>>
>>
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/XEmacs-footnote.diff
>>
>>
>> Thanks all
>>
>>
>> Andreas Röhler
> 
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> you are the author of footnote-init.el, right?  That was an important
> fix for footnote.el to make it usable for more than one-off documents.
>

Thanks.  A hundred fold flowers back for writing org-node :)

> Let me re-enforce a few things that have already come up here,
> mainly in Matt's post.
> 
> Org-mode started out using footnote.el, which I think is an
> excellent package for its original purpose - footnotes in emails.
> 
> But after a lengthy discussion here on the list which you can
> find in the archive, I implemented a different mechanism.
> 
> The main reasons were to allow for named footnotes and, most
> importantly, inline footnotes.  These are very helpful
> when you are building documents using cut and paste,
> which is where footnote.el fails.
> 


Yes, inline footnotes seem very useful indeed.



> Org did not implement automatic renumbering and sorting because
> it makes less sense to do so if footnotes are inline, or named
> and referenced multiple times.
> 

IMHO renumbering should be able to cope with all this circumstances.
With named footnotes "renumbering" might no longer be the appropriate
 term then...


> I can see that, when using footnotes in an isolated
> small document and automatic footnote lable generation,
> automatic renumbering and sorting is indeed useful.
> 
> In this case, you could fall back to footnote.el.
> However, Org does internally have functions to sort
> and renumber footnotes, so there is no reason why we could
> not call them after generating or deleting a note.
> Lets see ... OK,  in the latest git version of Org, use
> 
>    (setq org-footnote-auto-adjust t)
>

My suggestion:
Make it cope with inline, named and referenced multiple notes;
then set it to t by default.


> On a per-file basis you can also turn this on and off with
> 
> #+STARTUP: fnadjust
> #+STARTUP: nofnadjust
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Carsten
> 



Thanks a lot caring for the issue.


Andreas


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>>
>> -- 
>> https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/
>> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/python-mode.el/
>>
>> GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of
>> 2009-05-25
>>
>> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>
>> asdfs [fn:1]
>> [fnx:3]
>> sdfs
>> [fn:2]
>> * Footnotes
>>
>> [fn:1] asdfs d
>>
>> [fn:2] xdddd
>>
>> [fn:3] dddd
>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-04  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02  6:55 Andreas Roehler
2009-07-02 11:44 ` Karl Maihofer
2009-07-02 13:18   ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-02 15:48     ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-02 16:05       ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-02 20:09       ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-02 21:53         ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-03  8:36           ` Scot Becker
2009-07-03 12:08             ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-03 14:17               ` Paul R
2009-07-03 14:51                 ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-03 14:42               ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-03 21:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-07-04  8:02   ` Andreas Roehler [this message]
2009-07-04 20:30     ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-05 20:31       ` Carsten Dominik

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