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From: Keith Swartz <gnu@oneroad.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:10:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A1D9E37.9070300@oneroad.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5CAFD0E0-AEA6-4EBD-B9E9-BEDDE8C78351@gmail.com>

Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On May 27, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Keith Swartz wrote:
>
>> I can see where M-S-ENTER prompting for a status note change would be 
>> annoying. Personally, I don't use that feature, so I didn't think of 
>> that -- I'm more interested in the timestamps. Basically, I like 
>> being able to record /when/ something was first entered as a todo 
>> item -- gives me a good way to see which items are the oldest.
>>
>> One thought is to record the state change, but default the status 
>> note to "TODO created", rather than prompting for it.
>>
>> Then again, maybe a variable is the best answer here, because sooner 
>> or later, somebody is going to want to change that. Normally, I'd 
>> hate to add more and more variables just to complicate things, but 
>> org-mode seems to have no shortage of them. (That's a good thing!) :)
>
>
> Do you now hate or like it??? :-)
>
> There is now a new variable
> `org-treat-insert-todo-heading-as-state-change', default nil.
Ugh! That's it, now I hate it. :-)

Just kidding; our emails crossed paths, but this is exactly what I 
proposed. Thanks Carsten!

Keith

---

>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 26, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Manish wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the 
>>>>> functionality to
>>>>> track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and 
>>>>> then change
>>>>> it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the
>>>>> :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into 
>>>>> one (create
>>>>> a "TODO" item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for State
>>>>> "TODO" from "" at all. Is that a bug?
>>>>
>>>> IMO, this is not really a state change.
>>>
>>> In interesting point, and something up for discussion.
>>>
>>> I personally am neter interesting in recording a time stamp when 
>>> first switching an item to TODO.  Furthermore, for other state 
>>> changes I prefer to record a note.
>>> However, M-S-RET is really meant for fast adding of one or more TODO 
>>> entries, and being prompted for a state change note would be really 
>>> annoying here.
>>>
>>> Up for discussion, I am willing to install a variable here....
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>

      reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-22 23:15 Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER Keith Swartz
2009-05-26  8:23 ` Manish
2009-05-26  8:46   ` Keith Swartz
2009-05-26 13:51   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-26 14:18     ` Manish
2009-05-27  8:43     ` Keith Swartz
2009-05-27 13:42       ` Bernt Hansen
2009-05-27 14:54         ` Sebastian Rose
2009-05-27 20:04         ` Keith Swartz
2009-05-27 20:59           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-27 21:13             ` Bernt Hansen
2009-05-28  5:25               ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-28 13:39                 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-05-27 22:48             ` Keith Swartz
2009-05-27 19:18       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-27 20:10         ` Keith Swartz [this message]

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