From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lipidic man Subject: promote/demote indentation behaviour Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 12:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <495770869.4578008.1441715541892.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: lipidic man Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4578007_457957724.1441715541890" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56469) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZI7E-0003MW-Ej for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 08:35:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZI7B-0004NP-3F for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 08:35:12 -0400 Received: from nm36-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.114]:44907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZI7A-0004MV-Rw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 08:35:09 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" ------=_Part_4578007_457957724.1441715541890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have updated from org-mode 8.2.10 to 8.3.1 and the behaviour of=20 (org-do-promote), (org-do-demote), (org-promote-subtree), (org-demote-subtr= ee) has changed.=C2=A0 It now indents an unindented paragraph when demoting the= headline. e.g. ** subsection There is a pre-defined list of commands, and you can add more such commands using the variable org-speed-commands-user This did not occur before and does not seem like desired behaviour.=C2=A0 I= have checked this occurs in the testing build also. ------=_Part_4578007_457957724.1441715541890 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have updated fr= om org-mode 8.2.10 to 8.3.1 and the behaviour of

(org-do-promote), (org-do-demote), (org-promote-subtree), (org-demot= e-subtree)

<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441714670171_6364">has changed.  It now indent= s an unindented paragraph when demoting the headline.

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** subsection
= There is a pre-defined list of commands, and you can add more such
commands using the variable or= g-speed-commands-user


This did not o= ccur before and does not seem like desired behaviour.  I have checked = this occurs in the testing build also.
------=_Part_4578007_457957724.1441715541890-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: promote/demote indentation behaviour Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:45:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87y4gghq41.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <495770869.4578008.1441715541892.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54250) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZL3d-00011f-Qh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 11:43:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZL3d-0006j2-58 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 11:43:41 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::195]:38493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZL3c-0006iu-Vc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 11:43:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <495770869.4578008.1441715541892.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> (lipidic man's message of "Tue, 8 Sep 2015 12:32:21 +0000 (UTC)") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: lipidic man Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Hello, lipidic man writes: > I have updated from org-mode 8.2.10 to 8.3.1 and the behaviour of=20 > > (org-do-promote), (org-do-demote), (org-promote-subtree), (org-demote-sub= tree) > > has changed.=C2=A0 It now indents an unindented paragraph when demoting t= he headline. > e.g. > ** subsection > There is a pre-defined list of commands, and you can add more such > commands using the variable org-speed-commands-user > > This did not occur before and does not seem like desired behaviour. According to `org-adapt-indentation' it is the desired behaviour. You may want to set this variable to nil instead. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lipidic man Subject: Re: promote/demote indentation behaviour Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <159306203.4757058.1441728317618.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <87y4gghq41.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Reply-To: lipidic man Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4757057_578400257.1441728317615" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34733) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZLRQ-0005jf-2w for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:08:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZLRM-00026D-SL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:08:16 -0400 Received: from nm31-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.44]:53732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZLRM-00025v-Kx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:08:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y4gghq41.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" ------=_Part_4757057_578400257.1441728317615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. That works.=C2=A0 It stops unindented paragraphs from being moved.=C2=A0 Ho= wever under 8.2.10 the behaviour was to move indented text, but leave unind= ented text alone.=C2=A0 Any ideas on how to achieve this?=20 On Tuesday, 8 September 2015, 16:43, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: =20 Hello, lipidic man writes: > I have updated from org-mode 8.2.10 to 8.3.1 and the behaviour of=20 > > (org-do-promote), (org-do-demote), (org-promote-subtree), (org-demote-sub= tree) > > has changed.=C2=A0 It now indents an unindented paragraph when demoting t= he headline. > e.g. > ** subsection > There is a pre-defined list of commands, and you can add more such > commands using the variable org-speed-commands-user > > This did not occur before and does not seem like desired behaviour. According to `org-adapt-indentation' it is the desired behaviour. You may want to set this variable to nil instead. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou ------=_Part_4757057_578400257.1441728317615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks.

That works.  It stops unindented paragraphs from being moved.  Howeve= r under 8.2.10 the behaviour was to move indented text, but leave unindented=20 text alone.  Any ideas on how to achieve this?



On Tuesday, 8 S= eptember 2015, 16:43, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:=


Hello,

lipidic man <lipidicman@yahoo.com> writes:<= br clear=3D"none">
> I have updated from org-mode 8.2.= 10 to 8.3.1 and the behaviour of
>
= > (org-do-promote), (org-do-demote), (org-promote-subtree), (org-demote-= subtree)
>
> has changed.  I= t now indents an unindented paragraph when demoting the headline.
> e.g.
> ** subsection
= > There is a pre-defined list of commands, and you can add more such
> commands using the variable org-speed-commands-user
>
> This did not occur before and do= es not seem like desired behaviour.


According to `org-adapt-indentation' it is the desired behaviour. Youmay want to set this variable to nil instead.


Regards,

--
Nicolas Goaziou

=
------=_Part_4757057_578400257.1441728317615-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: promote/demote indentation behaviour Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: <878u8ghgns.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <87y4gghq41.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <159306203.4757058.1441728317618.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41212) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZOFC-0003qw-Fx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:07:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZOFB-0001BB-RW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:07:50 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::196]:38004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZOFB-0001Aw-Ly for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:07:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <159306203.4757058.1441728317618.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> (lipidic man's message of "Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:05:17 +0000 (UTC)") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: lipidic man Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" lipidic man writes: > That works.=C2=A0 It stops unindented paragraphs from being moved.=C2=A0 = However > under 8.2.10 the behaviour was to move indented text, but leave > unindented text alone. It was probably a bug then, since it was not following specifications. > Any ideas on how to achieve this? You could bring text at column 1 back to column 0 with a function added to `org-after-promote-entry-hook'. Regards,