From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: C-u usage Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:55:35 +0200 Message-ID: <494020DD-B763-4F38-B221-DE126BAA2679@gmail.com> References: <4C6A554F.4030009@easy-emacs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45623 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OlKlY-0001Ny-DO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:55:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OlKlX-0005np-2j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:55:40 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:42585) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OlKlW-0005nd-Ul for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:55:39 -0400 Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so3122072ewy.0 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 04:55:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C6A554F.4030009@easy-emacs.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Andreas, On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Andreas R=F6hler wrote: > > Hi Carsten, > > while dealing with the key/command-name issue, > thanks for the last hint BTW, works now, > > stumble over > > C-u C-u C-u > > Don't it break common Emacs usage somehow? No, it is customary that C-u changes the behavior as a function. Admittedly Org does this more extensively than other programs. > > The problem arises, as C-h k does not report a > combination starting with C-u... Yes, for your command name listing this is a problem. Two cases 1. Using prefix arguments actually internally calls a different command. Then one can try to find this command, and if it can be called in a stand-alone way, it would actually be useful to give this indirect =20= command in the list 2. The prefix argument just modified the command a bit - here I think we have no choice but to repeat the command name as it was given =20 for the un-prefixed call. Normally one would in fact describe the effect =20= of the prefix arg in the description of the un-prefixed command. But =20 sometimes I have found it useful to list the prefixed call explicitly. HTH - Carsten > > Just for consideration. > > Andreas - Carsten