From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Robert Goldman Subject: Re: bug with org-agenda-export Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:59:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4909D9D7.4080108@sift.info> References: <4909D27B.6010502@sift.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvZvk-0001qm-Sb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:59:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvZvi-0001qV-Au for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:59:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50197 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvZvi-0001qS-5R for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:59:26 -0400 Received: from outbound-mail-112.bluehost.com ([69.89.24.2]:34320) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvZvi-0000s1-3B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:59:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Richard Riley Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Richard Riley wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Why would you expect C-x C-w to remove/filter anything? Its simply > write-file. Or do I misunderstand? Did you possibly redefine this > command? I guess I expected the agenda-writer to be WYSIWYG in its behavior, and so apply the filters. I can understand what's going on, but it seems counterintuitive to me: the filter I apply interactively is implemented with overlays and not reflected in the output, but the special command I write that to me seems to do the same thing is not implemented with overlays, so works with org-write-agenda. I can see why this is done this way, and having looked at the emacs-lisp, I can see why it might be a big pain to change it to make org-write-agenda be wysiwyg, but I find it hard to think of the current behavior as actually desirable. Why would one *want* (as opposed to tolerate) an agenda writer that shows one something different from what one sees on the screen? Put differently, why would I expect C-x C-w effectively to *strip* the filters? I have already filtered, so I don't think of it as removing or filtering for C-x C-w to print what I see. Again, I understand what is really happening in the code, but to a user, it looks as if C-x C-w is stripping a filter that's been applied. best, r