From: chris <inkbottle007@gmail.com> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Internal link broken when publishing (was org-id with ox-html) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:46:12 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <4827285.5yCLvEFndJ@pluto> (raw) In-Reply-To: <sg32te$r48$1@ciao.gmane.io> On Tuesday, 24 August 2021 17:23:24 CEST Maxim Nikulin wrote: > On 23/08/2021 03:42, inkbottle wrote: > > Links between two different files, like > > `[[id:e54113f9-2ad7-4a86-94be-68ffc696de0b][hello]]`, get broken when > > publishing. (whatever the settings). > > > > I haven't found any workaround. > > > > Being able to move around entries, functionality provided by > > `org-id-link-to- org-use-id`, is pivotal, IMO. > > From my point of view it looks like a bug. > https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/lisp/ox.el#L4381 Thanks a lot for your help, I'm really struggling on this one. Sorry, I was afk for a few days. I believe it's a bug, plain and simple. With a unique org file, the `:ID: e54113f9-2ad7-4a86-94be-68ffc696de0b` are resolved to `orgfa9c151` consistently. Which is the expected behavior: the translation table is consistent. When there are multiple org files, in every example I've tried, every `org-id` based links was broken. There is a patch here: https://gist.github.com/jethrokuan/d6f80caaec7f49dedffac7c4fe41d132 but, as I understand it, the workaround consists in treating `:ID:` similarly as `:CUSTOM_ID:`, that is, exporting them "verbatim". That method, would be different from the *upstream* way, consisting in creating a "translation table". IMO the "patch" is more like a temporary workaround which can make the code confusing and difficult to maintain. Because a unique question is solved in different ways by different developers in different files. I think that the fix should happen in https://github.com/emacsmirror/org/blob/master/lisp/ox.el where the translation table is created and used, but I failed to grasp how it works due to my insufficient understanding of emacs-lisp. > checks for ID property. > https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/lisp/ox-html.el#L1659 > queries CUSTOM_ID only. I suppose, ID should be here as well. A subtle > point is which one (ID or CUSTOM_ID) should be used if both are defined > for some headers. Yes, "ID should be here as well" => No. That is the point I'm advocating above. `:CUSTOM_ID:` are meant to be treated in a so-called "stable" way. That is to say, the `CUSTOM_ID` you see in your org-file, is what you get in your HTML file (also I've done some tests with that method, and I recall it wasn't working at all in a multiple org files setting). On the other hand, `:ID:` are meant to be treated through a *translation table*, and should result in some `orgfa9c151` thing, on the HTML side. Weaving the two methods together doesn't seem like "road to success". > Maybe it is possible to create workaround as a custom config without > touching of Org code. I guess, "nicer" ids may be replaced by values of > ID property. Examples (I tried none of them): > - > https://tecosaur.github.io/emacs-config/config.html#nicer-generated-heading > https://orgmode.org/list/E1jxAjq-0004Dk-LH@lists.gnu.org/ (TEC. > [Interest] Determanistic Org IDs. Sun, 19 Jul 2020 22:27:31 +0800) > - > https://github.com/alphapapa/unpackaged.el#export-to-html-with-useful-anchor > s > https://orgmode.org/list/CA+G3_POCYTKR6M1K8XUPzUsg5EHd5Tv4FE4X-6MvadCSjSkHi > A@mail.gmail.com/ (Tom Gillespie. Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:39:08 -0500, Re: > stability of toc links) - > https://github.com/zzamboni/dot-doom/blob/master/doom.org#capturing-and-crea > ting-internal-org-links > https://orgmode.org/list/CAGY83EcFExvco6TuTOQiywgdDO0cXE+db828LeiDdimxBroVs > g@mail.gmail.com/ (Diego Zamboni. Wed, 9 Dec 2020 09:45:52 +0100. Re: > stability of toc links) - > http://ivanmalison.github.io/dotfiles/#usemyowndefaultnamingschemefororghead > ings > https://orgmode.org/list/4698cfeb2e415f88bd25e71267f29168@isnotmyreal.name/ > (TRS-80. Sat, 12 Dec 2020 20:25:15 -0500. Re: Better heading links in > org-mode exports) > - https://writequit.org/articles/emacs-org-mode-generate-ids.html The methods above are, as I understand it, all about making more beautiful links to export to HTML. Not about the "translation table" devised in `ox.el` being broken when working with multiple org-files. org-id is creating a neat framework for navigating between multiple org-files. Also, if I remember correctly, when using `CUSTOM_ID` with several org-files, you have to specify the file, contrary to how org-id work, using a database to find all by itself, the correct file to jump to.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-07 15:47 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-08-13 22:28 org-id with ox-html inkbottle 2021-08-14 0:50 ` inkbottle 2021-08-14 4:20 ` inkbottle 2021-08-17 3:11 ` Internal link broken when publishing (was org-id with ox-html) inkbottle 2021-08-22 20:42 ` inkbottle 2021-08-24 15:23 ` Maxim Nikulin 2021-09-07 15:46 ` chris [this message] 2021-09-14 16:33 ` Max Nikulin 2021-09-20 0:05 ` chris 2021-09-20 14:13 ` Max Nikulin 2021-09-20 15:26 ` chris
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