From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scott Otterson Subject: Re: Re: Feature request: HTML table formatting Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:09:34 -0700 Message-ID: <4632203E.8030606@sharpleaf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1108053240==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhT6o-0004R8-DL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:15:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhT6n-0004QI-Iq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:15:46 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhT6n-0004QF-D8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:15:45 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HhT0v-0002aT-8E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:09:41 -0400 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D0121843B for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [209.91.60.150]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6401DC3E for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:09:40 -0400 (EDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1108053240== Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'll agree with Daniel that sometimes, it's useful to have vertical table separators.  Here's how I kind-of do it:

| asdlfj |   | alsjfdas |
|--------+---+----------|
| alsdjf |   | aqsljf   |
| asdljf |   | asldjf   |

This is visible enough inside of org-mode and it yields a widish gap in exported html -- a horizontal screen space waster, though.  I suppose one way to denote a vertical separator without adding an extra symbol would be to allow tables in org-mode that look like this:

| asdlfj || alsjfdas |
|--------++----------|
| alsdjf || aqsljf   |
| asdljf || asldjf   |


Scott
 
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:23:16 +0200
From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>

On Apr 12, 2007, at 20:48, Daniel J. Sinder wrote:
  
>
> I think rejecting vertical rules as a matter of style is a mistake.
>  Whether you consider org-mode tables to be a markup or a
> spreadsheet, it's peers -- HTML, LaTeX, Gnumeric, Excel, etc. --
> will all produce tables with vertical rules if asked to do so.  I'm
> wary of tools that enforce style.  I'd prefer to read the style
> guide and then decide for myself (that is, use it as a *guide* not
> an edict).
    

Fair enough.
  
> However, if vertical rules are too clunky, difficult,
> time-consuming, or low priority to implement, that's an entirely
> different matter that I can fully understand.
    

As I said, I don't want to have a special separator for this,
implementation would be very cumbersome and I'd like
to be able to have ! as a character in a table field.
Maybe something like a special #+FORMAT line above the table
to set special formatting directives.

- Carsten
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