Re: Re: Release 7.02

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: "Sébastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: Release 7.02
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:26:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41829F98-B0DD-4FDB-981D-36DBECD53862@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80tyk5pfih.fsf@mundaneum.com>

Hi Sebastian,

On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Thanks a lot to you (and all others who made this happen) for this  
> beautiful
> new version!!
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Lists handling
>> ===============
>>
>> Due to changes made to lists, it is no longer possible to have a  
>> sublist,
>> some text and then another sublist while still in the same top- 
>> level list
>> item, like in the following situation:
>>
>>
>>  - Some list
>>    + A first sublist
>>    + of two elements
>>
>>    A text belonging to the top-level list
>>
>>    + Then another sublist
>>    + and a second element in it
>>  - End of main list
>
> Basically, it means that this entry for this entry (about Org Babel)  
> from an
> old file of mine (update this morning) does not publish anymore the  
> same way:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> * How to view the results
>
> - =C-c C-v C-v= (or =C-c C-v v=) -- View the expanded body of a code  
> block.
>
> - =C-c C-v C-z= -- Switch to the *session* of the current code block  
> (first,
>  you need to add =:session= to it).
>
>  Use =C-u C-c C-v C-z= to bring up the session with the input variable
>  pre-loaded.
>
>  =C-c C-v z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session-with-code=) is a variant  
> of =C-c
>  C-v C-z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session=): instead of switching to the
>  session buffer, it splits the window between:
>
>  + the session buffer, and
>  + a language major-mode edit buffer for the code block in question.
>
>  This can be convenient for using language major mode for  
> interacting with
>  the session buffer.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> The last sentence is *not* considered part of the second element of  
> the first
> list.
>
> Although I've seen similar constructs in many, many documents, does  
> anyone
> know enough rules of style to tell me if this is a wrong way to  
> write things
> down?  Or, does some possibility still exist to support this  
> seamlessly?

It is not that this would be bad style.  In fact I do miss this kind  
of structure as well, and accepting loosing it was the biggest  
argument against Nicolas' change.

However, the trade was for much greater stability and consistency of  
plain lists, Nicolas has done some great work here.  Another issue was  
that the LaTeX exporter never had any support for these structures, so  
that was inconsistent for a long time.

- Carsten

>
>
>> Make footnotes work correctly in message-mode
>> ==============================================
>> The footnotes code now searches for the message delimiter "--" in  
>> order to
>> place footnotes before the signature. Thanks to Tassilo Horn for  
>> this patch.
>
> Just a detail: the delimiter is "-- " (space after the dashes).
>
> Best regards,
>  Seb
>
> -- 
> Sébastien Vauban
>
>
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- Carsten