* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
@ 2013-04-23 19:47 白い熊@相撲道
2013-04-24 7:55 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: 白い熊@相撲道 @ 2013-04-23 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>* Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Basically, we're almost there but not quite. It sure would be nice
>to
>> have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
>> org-mode on the move.
I've built glibc 2.17 for Android, now I compile all GNU apps natively on my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note II). Using http://kumatux.org/ (my app) I can install any compiled app anywhere locally on the system, withoit messing with the underlying file structure - originally I started developing this for my laptop, but particularly useful for Android...
So, I have full Emacs (latest bzr) running on the phone. Using Hacker's Keybod app works well.
I've been upgrading kumatux.org, will probably take me a month or two, to finish the latest rebuild - I'm converting to running out of Clisp, rather than just shell scripts.
Then I'm planning to publish a guide how to build emacs natively on Android, as well an put the built tarballs somewhere...
So, we're already there! I just need to polish what I'm using, no I can then publish it. I'll try to make sure not to forget to publicize here also.
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白い熊@相撲道
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* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
2013-04-23 19:47 OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs 白い熊@相撲道
@ 2013-04-24 7:55 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2013-04-24 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 白い熊@相撲道; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
"白い熊@相撲道" <emacs-orgmode_gnu.org@sumou.com> writes:
>>* Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> Basically, we're almost there but not quite. It sure would be nice to
>>> have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
>>> org-mode on the move.
>
> I've built glibc 2.17 for Android, now I compile all GNU apps natively
> on my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note II). Using http://kumatux.org/ (my
[...]
> So, I have full Emacs (latest bzr) running on the phone. Using
> Hacker's Keybod app works well.
[...]
> So, we're already there! I just need to polish what I'm using, no I
> can then publish it. I'll try to make sure not to forget to publicize
> here also.
This is really brilliant news! I look forward to the announcement of
your polished system. Is it worth looking at kumatux.org now or must I
wait?
thanks,
eric
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* Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader
@ 2013-03-26 12:49 Karl Voit
2013-03-26 14:35 ` Carmine Casciato
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-03-26 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi!
TL;DR: org-feed.el is not a doable replacement for Google Reader.
What about alternatives?
I am using Google Reader with the Android app "NewsRob Pro" which is
very good in terms of features that make sense and support my
workflow.
Google Reader will die in July and therefore NewsRob will die as
well (or has to migrate to another server platform which is unlikely
due to lack of time from the author).
So I was thinking of using Emacs with or without Org-mode as a
potential replacement. I basically live in Org-mode. Since I read
RSS a *lot* on my Android devices (yes, even being at home), I'd
love to have sync abilities between desktop Emacs and something like
MobileOrg.
I stumbled upon org-feed.el[1][2] and tried it with two of my RSS
feeds (heise, Dilbert).
It's working. In a way.
Unfortunately, there is no (obvious) way of getting the feed content
rather than the short description (for selected feeds). Images are
not shown (Dilbert comic strip) and HTML fragments are all over the
place making it hard to read the news. Since the resulting data did
not fulfill basic requirements, I did not even bother and try to sync
it to MobileOrg.
Therefore, org-feed.el is not a replacement for Google Reader and
NewsRob for my set of requirements at all.
I wonder if there are a group of people having the same issue
because of the demise of Google Reader and apps that sync from/to
there.
Any suggestions? Ideas?
I'd prefer to think about having a solution which is hosted on my
computers rather than having to re-do the switch when the next cloud
based service stops working in a year or so.
1. http://orgmode.org/manual/RSS-Feeds.html
2. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-feed.html
--
Karl Voit
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2013-03-26 12:49 Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader Karl Voit
@ 2013-03-26 14:35 ` Carmine Casciato
2013-03-26 14:58 ` Karl Voit
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From: Carmine Casciato @ 2013-03-26 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: news1142; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> Hi!
>
> TL;DR: org-feed.el is not a doable replacement for Google Reader.
> What about alternatives?
Hi Karl,
You can perhaps try with Gnus and Gwene? It seems like many people have been
uploading their OPML's since the Reader announcement, so there is a nice
selection of blogs to choose from already.
Cheers,
Carmine
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* Re: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader
2013-03-26 14:35 ` Carmine Casciato
@ 2013-03-26 14:58 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-14 14:14 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-03-26 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Carmine Casciato <casciato@gmail.com> wrote:
> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
>
>> TL;DR: org-feed.el is not a doable replacement for Google Reader.
>> What about alternatives?
>
> Hi Karl,
Hi Carmine!
> You can perhaps try with Gnus and Gwene?
Thanks for the pointer.
On the one hand, I do not have any Gnus experience and from the
things I already read about Gnus configuration, I want to keep it
that way. On the other hand, Gnus does not offer something to sync
with for the Android platform AFAIK.
So, yeah, Gnus/Gwene might be a possibility for people who do only
read RSS feeds within their Emacs setup. But for now, I want to try
to find a solution which is not that far away from my Reader/NewsRob
experience.
And yes, I also assume that this are requirements that
Emacs/Org-mode is not able to meet (yet). But you never know what
good hints you will get on ML like this :-)
--
Karl Voit
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* Re: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader
2013-03-26 14:58 ` Karl Voit
@ 2013-04-14 14:14 ` Steinar Bang
2013-04-15 7:47 ` Rainer M. Krug
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2013-04-14 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>>>>> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>:
> On the one hand, I do not have any Gnus experience
It doesn't have to be Gnus. Any NNTP client will work with feeds on
gwene. On the PC you could eg. use Thunderbird.
> and from the things I already read about Gnus configuration, I want to
> keep it that way.
There is a big difference in what you _can_ do, and what you have to do.
If you just want to read news with NNTP you basically only have to point
it to at least one NNTP server (eg. gwene).
> On the other hand, Gnus does not offer something to sync with for the
> Android platform AFAIK.
If you want a gwene reader for the android platform you will have to
find an NNTP client for android. I don't know if there is one... well
seems to be a couple:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro&hl=no
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* Re: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader
2013-04-14 14:14 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2013-04-15 7:47 ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-16 9:35 ` Karl Voit
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rainer M. Krug @ 2013-04-15 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>:
>
>> On the one hand, I do not have any Gnus experience
>
> It doesn't have to be Gnus. Any NNTP client will work with feeds on
> gwene. On the PC you could eg. use Thunderbird.
>
>> and from the things I already read about Gnus configuration, I want to
>> keep it that way.
>
> There is a big difference in what you _can_ do, and what you have to do.
>
> If you just want to read news with NNTP you basically only have to point
> it to at least one NNTP server (eg. gwene).
>
>> On the other hand, Gnus does not offer something to sync with for the
>> Android platform AFAIK.
>
> If you want a gwene reader for the android platform you will have to
> find an NNTP client for android. I don't know if there is one... well
> seems to be a couple:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro&hl=no
There is, imho, one big difference between using google reader and gwene
with any desktop news reader: as far as I know, you can not sync read
items between ydifferent readers (desktops, mobile devices, tablets,
...). This is for me a problem, as I mainly read from my iPad, and
sometimes friom my desktop. But I want to see only the news which I did
not read on the other device. So something like an imap implementation
for gwene would be needed to make it a *very* interesting solution for
me. As it stands at the moment, I registered with feedly [1] which
syncs with google reader (while it still exists) and provides very
similar benefits.
If I could sync my gnus (it is really not that difficult to get started,
but much more difficult to not get carried away with configuring and
tweaking - just because one can... But I love gnus: highly recommended)
with my mobile device, I will stick with feedly.
Cheers,
Rainer
>
>
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
Footnotes:
[1] http://www.feedly.com
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Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
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* Re: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader
2013-04-15 7:47 ` Rainer M. Krug
@ 2013-04-16 9:35 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-16 10:35 ` Rainer M. Krug
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-04-16 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Rainer M. Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>
> There is, imho, one big difference between using google reader and gwene
> with any desktop news reader: as far as I know, you can not sync read
> items between ydifferent readers (desktops, mobile devices, tablets,
> ...). This is for me a problem, as I mainly read from my iPad, and
> sometimes friom my desktop.
Besides the fact that I am using my Android phone and my Android
tablet in addition to my desktop, I totally copy your point.
> But I want to see only the news which I did not read on the other
> device. So something like an imap implementation for gwene would
> be needed to make it a *very* interesting solution for me.
Ack.
However, for me it is necessary to implement per-feed settings for
grabbing the article content. Some feeds do offer only a short
description of the content but I want to get the whole article
without indirection over mobile browsers or such.
> As it stands at the moment, I registered with feedly [1] which
> syncs with google reader (while it still exists) and provides very
> similar benefits.
Yes. BUT: feedly does not offer offline support. Thus, when I am on
an airplane or without data connection, I am not able to read my RSS
feeds. Not acceptable to me.
> If I could sync my gnus (it is really not that difficult to get started,
> but much more difficult to not get carried away with configuring and
> tweaking - just because one can... But I love gnus: highly recommended)
> with my mobile device, I will stick with feedly.
I tested Emacs on my Android tablet and no, I definitely do *not*
want to use my beloved Emacs on this very limited device
(shortcuts/keyboard).
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2013-04-16 9:35 ` Karl Voit
@ 2013-04-16 10:35 ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-16 10:58 ` Karl Voit
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rainer M. Krug @ 2013-04-16 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: news1142; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> * Rainer M. Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>>
>> There is, imho, one big difference between using google reader and gwene
>> with any desktop news reader: as far as I know, you can not sync read
>> items between ydifferent readers (desktops, mobile devices, tablets,
>> ...). This is for me a problem, as I mainly read from my iPad, and
>> sometimes friom my desktop.
>
> Besides the fact that I am using my Android phone and my Android
> tablet in addition to my desktop, I totally copy your point.
>
>> But I want to see only the news which I did not read on the other
>> device. So something like an imap implementation for gwene would
>> be needed to make it a *very* interesting solution for me.
>
> Ack.
Ack?
>
> However, for me it is necessary to implement per-feed settings for
> grabbing the article content. Some feeds do offer only a short
> description of the content but I want to get the whole article
> without indirection over mobile browsers or such.
>
>> As it stands at the moment, I registered with feedly [1] which
>> syncs with google reader (while it still exists) and provides very
>> similar benefits.
>
> Yes. BUT: feedly does not offer offline support. Thus, when I am on
> an airplane or without data connection, I am not able to read my RSS
> feeds. Not acceptable to me.
This is most definitely a huge problem - I agree. But if I remember
correctly, they are working on it. The only additional thing which is
missing is being able to sync from the other reader apps which have
offline support with feedly.
>
>> If I could sync my gnus (it is really not that difficult to get started,
>> but much more difficult to not get carried away with configuring and
>> tweaking - just because one can... But I love gnus: highly recommended)
>> with my mobile device, I will stick with feedly.
>
> I tested Emacs on my Android tablet and no, I definitely do *not*
> want to use my beloved Emacs on this very limited device
> (shortcuts/keyboard).
I can imagine - a regular emacs on an android touch tablet without an
additional keyboard...
Cheers,
Rainer
--
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Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
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* Re: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader
2013-04-16 10:35 ` Rainer M. Krug
@ 2013-04-16 10:58 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-16 11:43 ` Tom
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-04-16 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Rainer M. Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
>
>> * Rainer M. Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>>
>>> But I want to see only the news which I did not read on the other
>>> device. So something like an imap implementation for gwene would
>>> be needed to make it a *very* interesting solution for me.
>>
>> Ack.
>
> Ack?
Sorry for using an abbr. that is not as widespread as I thought.
Ack = Acknowledge. Here I used it in short for „I agree“.
>> Yes. BUT: feedly does not offer offline support. Thus, when I am on
>> an airplane or without data connection, I am not able to read my RSS
>> feeds. Not acceptable to me.
>
> This is most definitely a huge problem - I agree. But if I remember
> correctly, they are working on it. The only additional thing which is
> missing is being able to sync from the other reader apps which have
> offline support with feedly.
Most important features to me.
>> I tested Emacs on my Android tablet and no, I definitely do *not*
>> want to use my beloved Emacs on this very limited device
>> (shortcuts/keyboard).
>
> I can imagine - a regular emacs on an android touch tablet without an
> additional keyboard...
I also tested a FreedomPro bluetooth keyboard with my XOOM tablet.
Unfortunately, no Ctrl/ESC/Alt is working. So Android/Emacs is not
usable without the Hacker's keyboard which is an on-screen keyboard
that offers all those modifier keys. When the on-screen keyboard
uses half of the tablet screen, it is no fun using Emacs at all.
--
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2013-04-16 10:58 ` Karl Voit
@ 2013-04-16 11:43 ` Tom
2013-04-16 13:21 ` OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs (was: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader) Karl Voit
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tom @ 2013-04-16 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode, news1142
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> schrieb:
[...]
>> I can imagine - a regular emacs on an android touch tablet without an
>> additional keyboard...
>
>I also tested a FreedomPro bluetooth keyboard with my XOOM tablet.
>Unfortunately, no Ctrl/ESC/Alt is working. So Android/Emacs is not
>usable without the Hacker's keyboard which is an on-screen keyboard
>that offers all those modifier keys. When the on-screen keyboard
>uses half of the tablet screen, it is no fun using Emacs at all.
There is an app, External Keyboard Helper (Pro), that enables full usage of most bluetooth/usb keyboards. It is not without usability Problems, some would need a rooted phone to solve, but I'm happy with the setup so far. I mostly need it for connectbot sessions.
It is a payed app, but there is a free version, so you can test your setup first.
Regards,
Tom
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* OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs (was: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader)
2013-04-16 11:43 ` Tom
@ 2013-04-16 13:21 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-16 18:30 ` OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs David Rogers
2013-04-16 22:47 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-04-16 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Tom <tom@goochesa.de> wrote:
>
> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> schrieb:
>>
>>I also tested a FreedomPro bluetooth keyboard with my XOOM tablet.
>>Unfortunately, no Ctrl/ESC/Alt is working. So Android/Emacs is not
>>usable without the Hacker's keyboard which is an on-screen
>>keyboard that offers all those modifier keys. When the on-screen
>>keyboard uses half of the tablet screen, it is no fun using Emacs
>>at all.
>
> There is an app, External Keyboard Helper (Pro), that enables full
> usage of most bluetooth/usb keyboards. It is not without usability
> Problems, some would need a rooted phone to solve, but I'm happy
> with the setup so far. I mostly need it for connectbot sessions.
Thank you *very* much for this pointer!
Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it) and
while typing in a note taking app works quite fine, simple
characters like «!» do not work in ConnectBot/vim :-(
I have to invest some time in this tool. Probably I might be able to
get it to work.
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2013-04-16 13:21 ` OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs (was: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader) Karl Voit
@ 2013-04-16 18:30 ` David Rogers
2013-04-16 22:47 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Rogers @ 2013-04-16 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it)
There is a known segfault related to having the font size set too
large. I forget how to fix it because I haven't been using Android Emacs
lately, but try setting the font smaller in whatever way you can.
--
David
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* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
2013-04-16 13:21 ` OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs (was: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader) Karl Voit
2013-04-16 18:30 ` OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs David Rogers
@ 2013-04-16 22:47 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-04-23 9:05 ` Karl Voit
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2013-04-16 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Karl Voit; +Cc: news1142, emacs-orgmode
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it) and
I found that you can get the Emacs app started without segfaulting if
you reduce the font size. Of course, that may make the text
illegible for you... :-(
The on-screen keyboard is not ideal, of course. My bluetooth
mini-keyboard doesn't transmit CTRL unfortunately so not very useful.
Basically, we're almost there but not quite. It sure would be nice to
have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
org-mode on the move. Although I'm using MobileOrg more and more, I'm
only using it for capturing notes. I really want appointments and
everything else as well!
I've only tried Emacs on my recently acquired Nexus 4 (phone) but will
try it out on a tablet (Nexus 7) tomorrow hopefully. Not what I want in
the long term but worth trying, I guess.
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: Eric S Fraga, GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D
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* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
2013-04-16 22:47 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2013-04-23 9:05 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-23 9:56 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-04-23 19:23 ` 白い熊
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-04-23 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I found that you can get the Emacs app started without segfaulting if
> you reduce the font size. Of course, that may make the text
> illegible for you... :-(
Thanks to everyone sending me this tipp. It worked :-)
> The on-screen keyboard is not ideal, of course. My bluetooth
> mini-keyboard doesn't transmit CTRL unfortunately so not very useful.
Ack. ... Oh ... I agree. :-)
> Basically, we're almost there but not quite. It sure would be nice to
> have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
> org-mode on the move.
I am looking forward to this!
> Although I'm using MobileOrg more and more, I'm only using it for
> capturing notes. I really want appointments and everything else
> as well!
Same here at my side. Next, I want to test the agenda on MobileOrg
and the feature to show it on the Android calendar. This way, I want
to get rid of Google more and more which has proven to be not
reliable at all (dying Reader, dying APIs, ...).
--
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> get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <
https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
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2013-04-23 9:05 ` Karl Voit
@ 2013-04-23 9:56 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-04-23 20:16 ` Julien Cubizolles
2013-04-23 19:23 ` 白い熊
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2013-04-23 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Karl Voit; +Cc: news1142, emacs-orgmode
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> * Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Although I'm using MobileOrg more and more, I'm only using it for
>> capturing notes. I really want appointments and everything else
>> as well!
>
> Same here at my side. Next, I want to test the agenda on MobileOrg
> and the feature to show it on the Android calendar. This way, I want
> to get rid of Google more and more which has proven to be not
> reliable at all (dying Reader, dying APIs, ...).
I tried out the sync to calendar option in MobileOrg. It synced tasks
(i.e. scheduled and deadline entries) but not entries with just active
time stamps which are what I use for appointments. In my use of org, I
have a clear distinction between tasks and appointments. I schedule
tasks to days but not times. Appointments are not tasks as they
disappear whether I attended them or not whereas tasks persist.
I would like active time stamps to appear in my calendar for the "at a
glance" identification of free and busy times and for reminders of when
I need to be somewhere. I prefer to keep task information in org and
not in my Google calendar so MobileOrg's behaviour is exactly the
opposite of what I wanted unfortunately.
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: Eric S Fraga, GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D
: in Emacs 24.3.50.1 and Org release_8.0.1-19-g9655a1
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* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
2013-04-23 9:56 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2013-04-23 20:16 ` Julien Cubizolles
2013-04-24 7:36 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Julien Cubizolles @ 2013-04-23 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> I tried out the sync to calendar option in MobileOrg. It synced tasks
> (i.e. scheduled and deadline entries) but not entries with just active
> time stamps which are what I use for appointments.
It's working for me: I'm using the latest MobileOrg from the PlayStore
and entries with just a time stamp are synced to my Android phone
calendar. I think however it didn't use to work before, and the doc on
the github site seems to say that it's not possible.
Julien.
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* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
2013-04-23 20:16 ` Julien Cubizolles
@ 2013-04-24 7:36 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2013-04-24 7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Julien Cubizolles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Julien Cubizolles <j.cubizolles@free.fr> writes:
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>
>> I tried out the sync to calendar option in MobileOrg. It synced tasks
>> (i.e. scheduled and deadline entries) but not entries with just active
>> time stamps which are what I use for appointments.
>
> It's working for me: I'm using the latest MobileOrg from the PlayStore
> and entries with just a time stamp are synced to my Android phone
> calendar. I think however it didn't use to work before, and the doc on
> the github site seems to say that it's not possible.
>
> Julien.
Interesting. I'll have to try again although it's only been a month or
so since I last tried.
--
: Eric S Fraga, GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D
: in Emacs 24.3.50.1 and Org release_7.9.3f-1199-g3a0e55
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* Re: OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs
2013-04-23 9:05 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-23 9:56 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2013-04-23 19:23 ` 白い熊
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: 白い熊 @ 2013-04-23 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>* Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Basically, we're almost there but not quite. It sure would be nice
>to
>> have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
>> org-mode on the move.
I've built glibc 2.17 for Android, now I compile all GNU apps natively on my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note II). Using http://kumatux.org/ (my app) I can install any compiled app anywhere locally on the system, withoit messing with the underlying file structure - originally I started developing this for my laptop, but particularly useful for Android...
So, I have full Emacs (latest bzr) running on the phone. Using Hacker's Keybod app works well.
I've been upgrading kumatux.org, will probably take me a month or two, to finish the latest rebuild - I'm converting to running out of Clisp, rather than just shell scripts.
Then I'm planning to publish a guide how to build emacs natively on Android, as well an put the built tarballs somewhere...
So, we're already there! I just need to polish what I'm using, no I can then publish it. I'll try to make sure not to forget to publicize here also.
--
白い熊
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