From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Tim O'Callaghan" Subject: Re: org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:18:06 +0100 Message-ID: <3d6808890902151418y564c4f86w44d0cea114e126a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <83d4dkyw94.fsf@cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LYpJY-0004Sb-1c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:18:16 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LYpJW-0004SP-K8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:18:15 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36077 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LYpJW-0004SM-Dl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:18:14 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f10.google.com ([209.85.220.10]:48338) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LYpJW-0006Uw-2Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:18:14 -0500 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so47626fxm.18 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:18:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: org-mode > > This is what I have done extensively in the manual, but this has not > kept people from doing (require 'org) in .emacs. > > I have been fighting hard to get people to use (require 'org-install), > so I did not want to punish them when they move to Emacs 23 and want > to use the Emacs version. Admittedly, this is not very likely. > > Also, I do want to keep the option that org-install will do more than > just install autoloads. > > So while I don't have strong feelings about removing org-install > from Emacs again, I cannot really see the point either. > > - Carsten > The usage of org-install has the pre-requisite of having to compile the org.el files. This is no use to people like myself, who want to use the same .el files in XEmacs and Emacs due to incompatible .elc problems. Its also no use to people who do no have a build system or make binary installed e.g. windows users, locked down linux/unix systems etc. How about adding a skeleton org-install.el that gets overwritten by the make? Tim.