Hello, I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease. Thanks, Cezar
> I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use
> with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease.
>
Since the files are plain text anything that is capable of syncing plain
text files should work. Although you can edit/display the files on your
pda, I think that hardly any pda's can run emacs, so you lose a lot of
the functionality of being able to use org mode.
For simply referring to data in your files I find that exporting my org
files to html, copying to my phone, then viewing them on my smartphone's
browser works well.
Ian.
[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 400 bytes --] Hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Cezar wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use > with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease. This would be of major interest. Is it besser to wait for the official release of the OpenMoko? I have heard that one can install a complete Emacs on this. Bye, Sven [-- Attachment #1.2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Cezar <cezar@mixandgo.ro> writes:
> I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to
> use with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease.
Not entirely serious: has anyone ported emacs to the N800 or OpenMoko
yet?
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On 2007-09-17 13:50 +0100, Sven Bretfeld wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Cezar wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use >> with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease. > > This would be of major interest. Is it besser to wait for the official > release of the OpenMoko? I have heard that one can install a complete > Emacs on this. > > Bye, > > Sven Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda? Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard input. How would these two things match? -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. I use GNU Emacs <= http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ <=
Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
> Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda?
> Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard
> input. How would these two things match?
The new smartphones have a qwerty keyboard (see blackbery, and palm
treo). I don't know how fast you can be, but it's about bringing our
favorite working enviroment to our pocket since most of us have
everything inside emacs (mail, org, text editor, etc).
At least thats what I feel the need for, an emacs to go :P
Cheers,
Cezar
On 2007-09-17 15:12 +0100, Cezar wrote: > The new smartphones have a qwerty keyboard (see blackbery, and palm > treo). I don't know how fast you can be, but it's about bringing our > favorite working enviroment to our pocket since most of us have > everything inside emacs (mail, org, text editor, etc). That sounds appealing. But how would you type C-x? Hold down right ctrl and type 'x'. That is not the same as in normal pc. I wonder if this will spoil your muscle memory. Probably making ctrl sticky could be more intuitive. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. I use GNU Emacs <= http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ <=
[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 991 bytes --] On 9/17/07, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote: > Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda? > Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard > input. How would these two things match? I don't think that most people would choose to run Emacs on a PDA (phone) if they had a desktop/laptop available. The scenario where Emacs on a phone seems attractive is when your only options are Emacs on your phone or writing on your hand. As someone who's used Emacs on a HTC Mogul though[1], I completely agree with your point. Generally PDAs/phones don't make very good Emacs devices, not so much because typing on their keyboards is slow, but because almost all physical phone keyboards (excluding external keyboards) lack Control and Meta keys. As you can imagine, Emacs without Control or Meta is not very useful or fun. Cheers, Scott Footnotes: [1] I used SSH, which had the added benefit that I didn't have to worry about syncing my org-mode files. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1315 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda? Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard input. How would these two things match? I must say I agree with you. I think even more that PDA just suck ! Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org
Jason> Cezar <cezar@mixandgo.ro> writes: >> I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to >> use with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease. Jason> Not entirely serious: has anyone ported emacs to the N800 or OpenMoko Jason> yet? I have a N800 and I haven't found a port yet, so I would need to try to build it myself. My goal is to get emacs-nox running on the N800, and then run it from an Xterm. Unfortunately the lack of a keyboard will make it difficult to use. On the other hand I can already use rsync or SVN to synchronize the files with n800. So for people who are willing to work with a regular text editor this is not a too-bad-approach. --dmg Jason> -- Jason> +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Jason> | Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net | Jason> | If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in | Jason> | battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one | Jason> | is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada | Jason> _______________________________________________ Jason> Emacs-orgmode mailing list Jason> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Jason> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jason> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with .
Leo> On 2007-09-17 13:50 +0100, Sven Bretfeld wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Cezar wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use >>> with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease. >> >> This would be of major interest. Is it besser to wait for the official >> release of the OpenMoko? I have heard that one can install a complete >> Emacs on this. >> >> Bye, >> >> Sven Leo> Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda? Leo> Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard Leo> input. How would these two things match? My Nokia N800 replaces my laptop in several trips. I have a bluetooth keyboard for it. Using with a stylus would be difficult, but not impossible. It is a matter of how hard I want it. And I want org on my n800 ;) dmg Leo> -- Leo> .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. I use GNU Emacs <= http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ <= Leo> _______________________________________________ Leo> Emacs-orgmode mailing list Leo> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Leo> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Leo> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with .
On 18/09/2007, Daniel M German <dmg@uvic.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Jason> Cezar <cezar@mixandgo.ro> writes:
> >> I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to
> >> use with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease.
>
> Jason> Not entirely serious: has anyone ported emacs to the N800 or OpenMoko
> Jason> yet?
>
> I have a N800 and I haven't found a port yet, so I would need to try
> to build it myself. My goal is to get emacs-nox running on the N800,
> and then run it from an Xterm. Unfortunately the lack of a keyboard
> will make it difficult to use.
>
> On the other hand I can already use rsync or SVN to synchronize the
> files with n800. So for people who are willing to work with a regular
> text editor this is not a too-bad-approach.
>
> --dmg
I have an N800 too, but to be honest, even with a BT keyboard, emacsen
would be pushing it. At the moment, for me at least, PDA's, phones etc
are good for reading and reviewing of tasks/actions or whatever and as
an 'inbox' for text/voice remember notes. At least if you want to use
org-mode as your canonical repository of tasks.
To get a PDA to interact/sync properly with Org mode, you'd need
native tools that understand org mode files and could update the PDA's
native TODO/Calandar/Contact/whatever information via its own API's.
In the book Getting Things Done, David Allen says that it is not the
tool you use, as much as it is how easy it is for you to be able to
use it to GTD. PDA's, even running emacs, would are too cumbersome to
be effective at Org GTDing without *org specific* tools IMHO.
Tim.