From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: POLL: the 40 variables project Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:07:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3CA13AF2-AFF7-49D1-97B6-7AF5AF6C1301@uva.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LSfzC-0004zf-Tu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:07:50 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LSfzB-0004yu-4E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:07:50 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60603 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LSfzB-0004yr-0W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:07:49 -0500 Received: from mail-ew0-f20.google.com ([209.85.219.20]:45795) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LSfzA-0000JV-DD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:07:48 -0500 Received: by ewy13 with SMTP id 13so488952ewy.18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:07:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Manish Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Manish wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: >> Hi, >> >> yesterday I did this command in my org-mode git repo: >> >> grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l >> >> and got 378 as an answer. 378 user-customizable variables, >> no kidding. >> >> However, I bet that only about 10% of these are really used >> by more that one user :-). So when a new users starts digging >> into Org-mode, they simply must be confused by the amount >> of variables that can be set. >> >> So here is the idea: I would like to find out which variables >> users actually customize. This could be the basis >> for a great article on Worg, describing just these selected >> variables. >> >> In addition, I could make a special customization group which only >> contains those variables (Emacs allows to put a variable into several >> groups). It would be awesome to have, and a much easier start into >> customizing Org. > > This is going to be very useful, IMHO. > >> >> So here is my question to all of you. Could you, in reply to this >> message, list all the Org-related variables that you have customized, >> along with the values you used? >> >> If you want to do more, I'd also love to see comments on >> >> - why you set the variable like this >> - if you feel that the default value of that variable >> should be different >> - Any other comments you might what to give. >> >> Of course, if there is a volunteer who would like to organize >> this info into a Worg page, I would even be more happy ... > > I am collating the information in the following format. > > | Submitter | Variable | Value | Comment | Hi Manish, thanks so much for doing this, really appreciate it. Maybe add a column with the default value, so that we can be sure that the did not just set the default value? But this is not important, we can do this automatically when we mine that data. - Carsten > > > Further analyses like which were the most commonly customized > variables, > their values etc. can then be derived from the listing (may be using R > or Excel.) Ideas on how to better organize this data are welcome. > > So far we have 13 responses. > > -- > Manish