Re: timer for a task

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Konstantin Antipin <antipin.konstantin@googlemail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: timer for a task
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:18:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B729AF0-A30A-4EED-B87F-000F5ED0BFA9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61176df0905250843n3da682c2xc46280c7b6c24670@mail.gmail.com>

On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote:

> Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in
> the mode-line if it is set.  Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked
> time/estimated time)
>  It does it by:
>    * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function.
>    * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the  
> mode-line.
>
> I would like to go further and do the following:
> * Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that
> initially intended
> * As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend
> on the task instead of currently clocked time.
>
> Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the
> orgmode-core?
> I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers..
> Is this the only way?
> I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things.

Hi Konstantin,

this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the  
core.

I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork,  
but
your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have
will push it over that limit.  We have the following possibilities:

1. You sign the papers.  This is very simple to do, unless you have
    an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems.
    This would be my preferred solution.

2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the
    contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks
    into Org, I would created any hooks needed.

3. I treat your contribution as an "idea/feature request" and implement
    it myself.  As I have many other things to do, this is my least  
preferred
    solution.

If you decide to sign the papers, please get the form from the homepage
orgmode.org (near te end) and send it to the FSF, with a CC to me.   
This will take you no more than 2 minutes.  We can then proceed with  
integrating your stuff into the Org core, but I will be able to  
integrate this change into Emacs only after I receive confirmation  
about the signed paper, which will happen within a fee weeks or so.

- Carsten

>
> best,
> Konstantin
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eraldo Helal <admin@eraldo.at>  
> wrote:
>> Sounds good to me.
>>
>> Eraldo
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:30, Konstantin Antipin
>> <antipin.konstantin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> Yes, you are right indeed. I am talking about effort estimates - I'v
>>> missed this chapter for some reason from the manual.
>>> I like the idea you proposed - to show how much time is left in the
>>> mode line. And I think I am going to write necessary code for this.
>>>
>>> Or, may be someone has even better idea?
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Konstantin
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Clemente  
>>> <n142857@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>  I suppose you talk about estimated efforts. I also have noticed  
>>>> that I work better if I have defined them, but it is very easy to  
>>>> miss them and work on a task more time than planned.
>>>>  An easy improvement would be to show at the mode line not only  
>>>> how much time you have worked on the current task but also the  
>>>> remaining time according to your effort estimate. And if it comes  
>>>> to 0, highlight it noticeably.
>>>>
>>>>  Other useful things to show would be the *total* elapsed time  
>>>> (not only the elapsed time of the last C-c C-x C-i) or directly  
>>>> the effort estimate (instead of the remaining time, the total  
>>>> time).
>>>>
>>>>  And as you say, an alarm would be useful.
>>>>
>>>> -- Daniel
>>>>
>>>> El dl, mai 25 2009, Konstantin Antipin va escriure:
>>>>> Hi everybody!
>>>>> I am constantly trying to be more productive, and there is one  
>>>>> thing
>>>>> that I noticed:
>>>>> If you give yourself a specific time for a task, then you tend to
>>>>> finish this task in this time. It helps to stay focused and do  
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> that is most important.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the question is - Is there any way to set a timer on a taks,  
>>>>> and
>>>>> get a bell when it is expired?
>>>>> Some time before I even wrote a small extension that helps me to  
>>>>> do
>>>>> that http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/tea-time
>>>>> But now I am thinking - is there an orgmode-way to do that? It  
>>>>> would
>>>>> be great to integrate it with great time tracking system, for
>>>>> example...
>>>>> If nobody uses proposed feature, please give me a hint how it  
>>>>> would be
>>>>> best to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> my best,
>>>>> Konstantin
>>>>>
>>>>>
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