From: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
To: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: unnumbered subsections in latex export
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:25:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3553.1300994702@alphaville.usa.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Bastien <bzg@altern.org> of "Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:59:26 BST." <87bp11dk4h.fsf@gnu.org>
Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Here is a list of difficulties:
>
> 1. the syntax of the backends vary, and this means that all Org options
> are not meaningful in all target formats;
>
> *Example*: #+XSLT is only meaninful for the Docbook export. The
> variable `org-export-html-postamble' is only meaningful for the HTML
> export. Etc.
>
> 2. exporters use various methods to export the file (e.g. the HTML
> exporter goes line by line, the LaTeX exporter parses the file and
> render each section);
>
> *Example*: users often ask why the LaTeX exporter cannot export a
> headline of level 3 right after a headline of level 1: they ask that
> because the HTML exporter can do this, while the LaTeX one cannot.
> And the LaTeX one cannot because parsing an ill-structured Org buffer
> is tricky for it.
>
> 3. exporters are maintained by various people: I know the HTML exporter
> and the LaTeX one, others know the other exporters, etc.
>
> I need your help do deal with these issues.
>
> The first thing to do is to have a list of annoying inconsistencies that
> need to be addressed in priority.
>
> The second thing would be to build a table (somewhere on Worg?) with the
> list of options and the way they are taken care by each exporter. Such
> a "synoptic view" would help developers know what they can work on, and
> users know what they have to expect from options. On the long term, it
> would also help make the documentation clearer about all these aspects.
>
> This will at least help with the first difficulty -- and motivate all
> people working on the exporters to address the second one. The third
> one can be turned into a *chance*: that of having several people working
> in the same direction.
>
Excellent plan!
If nobody beats me to it, I'll send out an initial draft of such a table
to the list for comment over the weekend: not a complete thing, mind
you - just something partially covering one or two exporters. We can modify
it as necessary and then proceed to populate it over the next few weeks.
Nick
PS:
> So, bare with me on this :)
>
I'm sorry to be so sophomoric about this, but the image that popped into
my mind was a bunch of org developers dropping their pants and mooning
the world. Bastien, I will have to undergo years of therapy for this:
I'll send you the bill :-)
> PS: Also note that I couldn't be as available as I wanted the 10 last
> days due to personal problems, but things look better now.
>
I think I'm speaking for all of us: Nothing here is so urgent that it
cannot wait for a few days or a few weeks or a few months. If something
absolutely *needs* to be done *today* (I can't think of anything that
would be this urgent, but let us say that there is something), and you
cannot get to it, let the list know: we'll either know to wait or
somebody will up and do it.
So you do what you need to do when you need to do it: org can take care
of itself for a while without much supervision. And you are not alone.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-24 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-22 12:10 unnumbered subsections in latex export Suvayu Ali
2011-03-22 12:20 ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-03-22 12:31 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-03-22 12:56 ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-03-22 14:26 ` [PATCH] Allow mixed export of numbered and unnumbered sections in LaTeX Lawrence Mitchell
2011-03-22 22:52 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-03-23 14:04 ` [Accepted] " Bastien Guerry
2011-03-23 14:17 ` [PATCH] " Bastien
2011-03-22 14:35 ` Re: unnumbered subsections in latex export Nick Dokos
2011-03-22 23:08 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-03-22 23:21 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-23 9:38 ` [PATCH] Allow mixed export of numbered and unnumbered sections in HTML Lawrence Mitchell
2011-03-23 14:05 ` [Accepted] " Bastien Guerry
2011-03-23 14:57 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-23 15:50 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-03-23 14:18 ` Re: unnumbered subsections in latex export Bastien
2011-03-23 15:02 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-23 16:25 ` Lawrence Mitchell
2011-03-23 16:42 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-23 18:17 ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-23 19:00 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-23 19:18 ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-23 16:29 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-03-23 17:42 ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-24 7:59 ` Bastien
2011-03-24 18:27 ` Achim Gratz
2011-03-24 19:25 ` Nick Dokos [this message]
2011-03-25 1:06 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-04-04 14:39 ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-04 17:04 ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-04 20:32 ` Aankhen
2011-04-05 10:16 ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-05 19:07 ` Aankhen
2011-04-05 19:27 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-04-05 21:25 ` New features for the exporters? Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-05 21:45 ` Re: unnumbered subsections in latex export Aankhen
2011-04-06 18:49 ` Matt Lundin
2011-04-06 20:19 ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-03-27 11:16 ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-27 11:40 ` Bastien
2011-03-31 21:58 ` Nicolas
2011-04-01 4:34 ` Jambunathan K
2011-04-01 4:41 ` Jambunathan K
2011-04-01 6:29 ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-01 15:41 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-04-04 14:00 ` Matt Lundin
2011-04-04 14:12 ` Jambunathan K
2011-04-04 16:36 ` Matt Lundin
2011-04-04 17:09 ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-01 7:39 ` Jambunathan K
2011-04-01 18:25 ` Achim Gratz
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