From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id KI9kFvmQm2IifgAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 19:06:01 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id aLVOFvmQm2JaKAEAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 19:06:01 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 600421C742 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 19:06:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57064 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxXDr-00014s-2b for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 13:05:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxXAB-0007oP-0S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 13:02:11 -0400 Received: from relay-egress-host.us-east-2.a.mail.umich.edu ([18.216.144.57]:53912 helo=subtle-dwyfan.relay-egress.a.mail.umich.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxXA8-0007f9-U1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 13:02:10 -0400 Received: from giddy-tupilaq.authn-relay.a.mail.umich.edu (ip-10-0-74-69.us-east-2.compute.internal [10.0.74.69]) by subtle-dwyfan.relay-egress.a.mail.umich.edu with ESMTPS id 629B9006.C9883.583B69BE.602831; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 13:01:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=umich.edu; s=relay-2018-08-29; t=1654362118; bh=LRHaFcJVNSuJieiee2zsCfpznYz2hqxl2/wPPG+3vu0=; h=To:cc:From:Subject:In-reply-to:References:Date; b=X/xxXdGhVL6x7z1Fq10iKkKozUPfIA+toxrj2fZdH6yqUMuotKlvP8rBRyuY6dhIf XN7XxVoEIgrPJdxxZeMDAVwUmc/S9lL1aVGEohzR3mmjoP/REnziR8wvz2szxUMtCH y0Mk1z1R7nmU4ny5qfejFyhFwLbDuOcx/PQWrAMdxjn9qkhu/QnJ6nlXBrUvJYNvsU EWZh2A1b6peK/miJVcl7AAWofzPAZCheY0ZlFZdYDaYHM0Er4NeSnYN6xaDT3bmjpG HZo9QABVWTXS476G4swTHqFIUrmj05teyJRwXdV4DZ6VevxxMNg4pX97pNbvU8qNBd 3gsoIEkJsWG5A== Received: from localhost (097-086-128-062.res.spectrum.com [97.86.128.62]) by giddy-tupilaq.authn-relay.a.mail.umich.edu with ESMTPSA id 629B9005.F74F20E.59E11B2E.1417841; Sat, 04 Jun 2022 13:01:57 -0400 To: Ihor Radchenko cc: Max Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Greg Minshall Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION, default settings] Using mailcap as default handler for opening file links (was: [PATCH v3] Re: Bug in 9.5.3 org--file-default-apps) In-reply-to: <878rqcy27h.fsf@localhost> References: <963d5f94-3fdf-a01b-bc91-edc99222cb34@gmail.com> <87czgeaxir.fsf@localhost> <6615610d-93ae-171f-b554-3f4cc79354cc@gmail.com> <87a6bhc1w6.fsf@localhost> <86692975-4d5f-6933-3227-c6b208f76862@gmail.com> <877d6lbsg5.fsf@localhost> <7c75b724-1ea2-5e3e-cbe6-e1895fd35bd3@gmail.com> <877d6j2htv.fsf@localhost> <87ilq14p6p.fsf@localhost> <87v8u0396t.fsf@localhost> <87ilpz3bi0.fsf@localhost> <87h75ip5r6.fsf@localhost> <87zgj46hwo.fsf@localhost> <8735gr15ok.fsf@localhost> <878rqcy27h.fsf@localhost> Comments: In-reply-to Ihor Radchenko message dated "Sat, 04 Jun 2022 21:42:42 +0800." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1654362361; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=LRHaFcJVNSuJieiee2zsCfpznYz2hqxl2/wPPG+3vu0=; b=IiswxgZZWN5L8guCRiy6ufVq7Dn69DaWGyzslpDeGIaSotVOuZvuOAcnjiTl9GT9JhQVQu Uxi02GEtzB+WgLhvv2eNdoFrqh+gReHksUz5x618BAJ7Z3kehmzIAilDl3ldqLtwczUYvj rojgGTm46/jq2ysdbXidjIur4pBGZJFLqKOaVfJquU25xkSdQznMrtSF40qAiWlHRHIIqo s8LLkiM1/bpbWb7lZsVAXBS9+zyNYj6voRwxWbnVH7/w9MQTrAfkAvmVQgHXYdtxI4uU7N sbpl+JeThlyKCIMg/Ritw9hunD6IWHP77dRND8+/vw6m0NcKIuwASmnO99nPXg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1654362361; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=g0uef31KkpaPYlMGL5lC0j5IW+DQbjc88tjHHbKLXQfXer234GJ533dcnD4wGNKAPI65jk X7wbFF+L2tUs/mHzWyev0vVr3Npy6pB51VGLZp7wXkOPn/ZbRT4PHDb7c2UAM5KWlurbC5 Teu/yGudvDBWfIb6TJZ4SF9RFKBmjagiK0le8CjCH+921Q6DI+uor6vzRFzbYN4J5cwkds 2jchD/tO0Dm8Ql5KOn+XLG+ZCHKvI/EpXZ29pbAJRJe2U+FQwzfHYj/y2eDGyigLSCP5up O51ZIz7iOjU4GicBNoCuz8fAjkoTj35hfstGoQnIqaX4H4fF5CQmOk+jT9fiJw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=umich.edu header.s=relay-2018-08-29 header.b="X/xxXdGh"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=umich.edu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=umich.edu header.s=relay-2018-08-29 header.b="X/xxXdGh"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=umich.edu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 600421C742 X-Spam-Score: -10.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Nvd0JjE669wf hi, Ihor, > It appears that using mailcap is giving us more trouble than benefits. > I am not sure about the situation on Windows and Mac though. > Should we change the default file handlers to Emacs globally (unless > user customizes otherwise)? Should we continue efforts to work around > mailcap issues? Maybe there is yet another alternative generic way to > open files? do you, or anyone else who might chime in, have a sense to what extent "mainline emacs development" is committed to pushing the mailcap solution? and, to what extent are they running up against, and trying to solve, problems similar to the ones you mention? if "commitment + yes, trying", it might make sense to have, at least, the *goal* of going mailcap. my 2c. cheers, Greg