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See > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2020-04/msg00452.html > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2020-05/msg00201.html > > Josiah > > Thank you. I recall seeing these messages, but did not realize that this change was going to effect all org files and by default, use lots and lots of space when an org file is opened. As dar as I am concerned,the past default was OK and it took only a brief time to learn the past behavior and the visibility settings on a per file basis. I may be only a user but if I had I would have voted no. Charlie Millar