* org-store-link forgets external filename? @ 2009-07-05 13:09 Stefan Vollmar 2009-07-05 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Stefan Vollmar @ 2009-07-05 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Org Mode Hello, I just noticed that there seems to be a problem with org-store-link (or in that context) with the current development version (6.28trans). I want to insert a link to one section of one org-file into another org-file, so I change to the file with the section I want to link to and use org-store-link (that section already has an ID property; the heading's name is displayed in the minibuffer - fine). I return to the file where I want to insert the link and use org-insert-link which offers the id I had just stored. (1) However, only the id is inserted and org seems to forget about the other file's name, "literal hyperlinks" yields: [[id:2806BA39-087E-4E2E-89E6-6DFA332727D2][some heading]] When exporting to HTML, the link is rendered to a local link (here: "#2806BA39...") of the current file rather than "./my-other-org- file#2806BA39...", which is a problem, of course. Clicking on the link in org-mode will also not open the file. (2) org-insert-link offers a list of ids which have been stored with the corresponding headings added on the right, using Arrow-Up and Arrow-Down will show the selected id in the minibuffer. As I want org to come up with unique ids for sections automatically (it does), I am usually not interested what ids it actually generates and I would suggest a different approach with org-insert-link: have a list of headings instead of a list of ids and show the selected link's heading, not its id, in the minibuffer, sorry if this has been discussed before. There may be cases where it is important to see a link's id in the selection so one could have an optional mode that adds the ids to the list. Warm regards, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: org-store-link forgets external filename? 2009-07-05 13:09 org-store-link forgets external filename? Stefan Vollmar @ 2009-07-05 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik [not found] ` <47E3A1B3-8065-4739-90B9-600664BB6E56@nf.mpg.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-07-05 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Vollmar; +Cc: Org Mode Hi Stefan, the magic of id: links is just that they are globally unique, and that they will find the right target even if you move the target entry from one file to another. Therefore, export to HTML should automatically insert the correct file name. And this is just how it works for me. File a has * headline 1 :PROPERTIES: :ID: 5E58A8EE-0DFC-4D05-BA53-D6B969919049 :END: In file b I am inserting here is the [[id:5E58A8EE-0DFC-4D05-BA53-D6B969919049][headline 1]] and in HTML this becomes a link <a href="a.html#ID-5E58A8EE-0DFC-4D05-BA53-D6B969919049">headline 1</a> Try M-x org-id-update-id-location to fix ID confusion. HTH - Carsten On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > Hello, > > I just noticed that there seems to be a problem with org-store-link > (or in that context) with the current development version (6.28trans). > > I want to insert a link to one section of one org-file into another > org-file, so I change to the file with the section I want to link to > and use org-store-link (that section already has an ID property; the > heading's name is displayed in the minibuffer - fine). I return to > the file where I want to insert the link and use org-insert-link > which offers the id I had just stored. > > (1) However, only the id is inserted and org seems to forget about > the other file's name, "literal hyperlinks" yields: > [[id:2806BA39-087E-4E2E-89E6-6DFA332727D2][some heading]] > When exporting to HTML, the link is rendered to a local link (here: > "#2806BA39...") of the current file rather than "./my-other-org- > file#2806BA39...", which is a problem, of course. Clicking on the > link in org-mode will also not open the file. > > (2) org-insert-link offers a list of ids which have been stored with > the corresponding headings added on the right, using Arrow-Up and > Arrow-Down will show the selected id in the minibuffer. As I want > org to come up with unique ids for sections automatically (it does), > I am usually not interested what ids it actually generates and I > would suggest a different approach with org-insert-link: have a list > of headings instead of a list of ids and show the selected link's > heading, not its id, in the minibuffer, sorry if this has been > discussed before. There may be cases where it is important to see a > link's id in the selection so one could have an optional mode that > adds the ids to the list. > > Warm regards, > Stefan > -- > Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. > Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung > Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany > Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 > Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 > Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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* Re: org-store-link forgets external filename? [not found] ` <47E3A1B3-8065-4739-90B9-600664BB6E56@nf.mpg.de> @ 2009-07-06 14:04 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-07-06 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Vollmar; +Cc: org-mode mailing list On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > Dear Carsten, > > On 05.07.2009, at 23:27, Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> Hi Stefan, >> >> the magic of id: links is just that they are globally unique, and >> that >> they will find the right target even if you move the target entry >> from one file to another. Therefore, export to HTML should >> automatically insert the correct file name. And this is just how >> it works for me. > > thanks for the quick and detailed reply! > > [...] >> Try M-x org-id-update-id-location to fix ID confusion. > > indeed everything now works just fine after calling org-id-update-id- > location in all files. However, the question remains: what went > wrong and is this a rare problem? Maybe some copy-paste-artefact? This is clearly a possibility. > > One other thing: I mentioned on the list a short while ago that we > need a list of headings with their corresponding links in the HTML > export to generate online help in QtAssistant format. I might even > get one of my students to look into it - I assume one could hook > into some HTML export functions. Could you give us a hint on where > to look? (org-map-entries '(list level (org-no-properties (org-get-heading 'notags)) (or (org-entry-get nil "CUSTOM_ID") (org-entry-get nil "ID"))) "LEVEL<=3" 'file) will return a list of elements, each with level (1-3), heading, and custom or U identifier that can be used in a link. I that what you are looking for? - Carsten P.S. Yes, the mapping API is *very* powerful, a pity that not more people use it. > > Many thanks in advance. > Warm regards, > Stefan > > >> >> HTH >> >> - Carsten >> >> >> >> On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Stefan Vollmar wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I just noticed that there seems to be a problem with org-store- >>> link (or in that context) with the current development version >>> (6.28trans). >>> >>> I want to insert a link to one section of one org-file into >>> another org-file, so I change to the file with the section I want >>> to link to and use org-store-link (that section already has an ID >>> property; the heading's name is displayed in the minibuffer - >>> fine). I return to the file where I want to insert the link and >>> use org-insert-link which offers the id I had just stored. >>> >>> (1) However, only the id is inserted and org seems to forget about >>> the other file's name, "literal hyperlinks" yields: >>> [[id:2806BA39-087E-4E2E-89E6-6DFA332727D2][some heading]] >>> When exporting to HTML, the link is rendered to a local link >>> (here: "#2806BA39...") of the current file rather than "./my-other- >>> org-file#2806BA39...", which is a problem, of course. Clicking on >>> the link in org-mode will also not open the file. >>> >>> (2) org-insert-link offers a list of ids which have been stored >>> with the corresponding headings added on the right, using Arrow-Up >>> and Arrow-Down will show the selected id in the minibuffer. As I >>> want org to come up with unique ids for sections automatically (it >>> does), I am usually not interested what ids it actually generates >>> and I would suggest a different approach with org-insert-link: >>> have a list of headings instead of a list of ids and show the >>> selected link's heading, not its id, in the minibuffer, sorry if >>> this has been discussed before. There may be cases where it is >>> important to see a link's id in the selection so one could have an >>> optional mode that adds the ids to the list. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> Stefan >>> -- >>> Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. >>> Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung >>> Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany >>> Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 >>> Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 >>> Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > -- > Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. > Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung > Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany > Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 > Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 > Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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