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Januar 2023, 10:40:30 CET schrieb Ihor Radchenko: > AW writes: > >> It is not up to Org. Try > >> > >> (browse-url "mid:3218434.44csPzL39Z@linux.fritz.box") > >> > >> You will likely see nothing. > > > > Well, M-x (browse-url "mid:3218434.44csPzL39Z@linux.fritz.box") > > produces [No match]. > > This is not a command. > You need M-: (... Sorry, I'm a user, not much knowledge of elisp. However, the result now is 'nil'. > >> So, while Org may provide some limited help with mid:, as Max suggested, > >> there is no way to guarantee that mid: links will work for all users > >> without users hand-customizing how to open emails. > >> > >> I am not even sure if we need to make Org open mid: links via > >> `browse-url'. Maybe it should be something else? IDK. > > > > This is weird since ever. I've been talking to some collegues and > > everybody > > has his/her own special approach. Mostly producing a PDF from the E-Mail > > and saving this and its attachments somewhere. That's a thing that > > bothered me for decades. > > Well. The more widely used standard is Maildir - downloading emails from > server to local machine. Emails are just files there that can be indexed > by variety of mail client software. This is about a maildirs of kmail on my local machine. The E-Mails are being indexed by akonadi on the side of kde-pim. But referring to a certain E-Mail from orgmode with a kind of link fails, because I'd need to got to the maildir and search for the specific E-Mail. kde-pim does not offer an easy way to extract that or the message-ID. > > The main question is which email clients actually support mid: links. > notmuch does, but in non-standard way, without doing it system-wide. And kmail obviously does not. OK, but since I installed notmuch, notmuch.el and ol-notmuch.el, I will have a look into using this. Thank you! -- Regards, Alexander