Re: Re: Sorting TODOs with time-up

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: Sorting TODOs with time-up
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:15:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2A75F1B6-E167-4260-B6D1-D8166C9DFE9E@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqlqzpsu.fsf@arcor.de>

On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:03 PM, David Engster wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:46 PM, David Engster wrote:
>>> Thanks for the clarification. This is a bit confusing, since sorting
>>> by priority works in the todo list, but sorting with date does
>>> not. Also, since I call the function 'org-agenda', it is a bit
>>> unexpected that when I press 't' afterwards I don't really get an
>>> agenda but a TODO list, which seems to behave differently in some
>>> aspects from the normal agenda view I get when pressing 'a'.
>>
>> Yes, this is bad terminology, which evolved historically.
>>
>> "org-agenda" is a dispatcher for the different views that we call
>> "agenda views".
>>
>> One of the "agenda views" is the global todo list (on `t'), another
>> one is the "daily/weekly agenda" (on `'a), which is a list of what is
>> due today or this week.
>> I always try to call it explicitly
>> "daily/weekly agenda" to avoid some of that confusion, but I agree,  
>> if
>> I'd get a chance to start again I would use better terms.  Now these
>> are so engrained in our mailing list culture and into tutorials etc
>> that I do not dare to change them anymore.
>
> Thank you for the explanation. Maybe this situation could be cleared  
> up
> a bit in the manual. While browsing through chapter 10, I got the
> impression that the different views are just different filters, but  
> that
> I'm always dealing with the same agenda mode, where each entry carries
> the same information.

Actually, I think this is so, entries always do carry the same
information in all these views.  remember that, a Matt said,
time-up is time-of-day only.

>
> Maybe one could explicitly mention which commands and sorting  
> strategies
> only apply to the daily/weekly agenda? I'd also say that the doc- 
> string
> of org-agenda-sorting-strategy does not make this point clear enough.

I will see what I can do.

- Carsten

>
>> Yes can use the text property on a, `org-hd-marker', which is a  
>> marker
>> pointing to the original location of the item.  You can make your
>> function go back to get this information.
>>
>> For example with
>> (org-entry-get (get-text-property 0 'org-hd-marker a) "SCHEDULED")
>
> I will try that. Thank you for your help!
>
> -David
>
>
>
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