* org-up-element does not the same for all structural blocks
@ 2023-01-01 23:19 Alain.Cochard
2023-01-02 9:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Alain.Cochard @ 2023-01-01 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
With an org file like
* h
#+begin_export ascii
foo
#+end_export
putting the cursor on 'foo' and doing
M-x org-up-element
brings the cursor on '* h'. Same with the following blocks:
‘#+begin_comment’ ... ‘#+end_comment’
‘#+begin_example’ ... ‘#+end_example’
‘#+begin_export’ ... ‘#+end_export’
‘#+begin_export html’ ... ‘#+end_export’
‘#+begin_export latex’ ... ‘#+end_export’
‘#+begin_src’ ... ‘#+end_src’ (I tried org and lisp)
‘#+begin_verse’ ... ‘#+end_verse’
But for those two blocks:
‘#+begin_center’ ... ‘#+end_center’
‘#+begin_quote’ ... ‘#+end_quote’
the cursor is moved to the beginning of the block instead, which I
find strange.
Incidentally, is there a definition understandable for the basic user
of what an "org element" is? I could not find one after a (quick)
Internet search, not even in
https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-element-api.html
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-syntax.html
(even if I sure it's between the lines...)
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* Re: org-up-element does not the same for all structural blocks
2023-01-01 23:19 org-up-element does not the same for all structural blocks Alain.Cochard
@ 2023-01-02 9:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-01-02 9:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alain.cochard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:
> With an org file like
>
> * h
> #+begin_export ascii
> foo
> #+end_export
>
> putting the cursor on 'foo' and doing
>
> M-x org-up-element
>
> brings the cursor on '* h'. Same with the following blocks:
>
> ‘#+begin_comment’ ... ‘#+end_comment’
> ‘#+begin_example’ ... ‘#+end_example’
> ‘#+begin_export’ ... ‘#+end_export’
> ‘#+begin_export html’ ... ‘#+end_export’
> ‘#+begin_export latex’ ... ‘#+end_export’
> ‘#+begin_src’ ... ‘#+end_src’ (I tried org and lisp)
> ‘#+begin_verse’ ... ‘#+end_verse’
>
> But for those two blocks:
>
> ‘#+begin_center’ ... ‘#+end_center’
> ‘#+begin_quote’ ... ‘#+end_quote’
>
> the cursor is moved to the beginning of the block instead, which I
> find strange.
This is to be expected. Center blocks, Quote blocks, and special blocks
are "greater elements", which can directly contain other Org elements
inside. Thus,
#+begin_center
Text
#+end_center
is interpreted as
(center-block (paragraph))
So, `org-up-element' with point at paragraph will move to parent
center-block.
In contrast, comment/example/export/src/verse are "lesser blocks", which
cannot contain other Org elements inside - their contents is taken
verbatim:
#+begin_comment
Text
#+end_comment
is interpreted as
(comment-block)
with point at "Text", current element is comment-block, and its parent
is headline in your example.
> Incidentally, is there a definition understandable for the basic user
> of what an "org element" is? I could not find one after a (quick)
> Internet search, not even in
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-syntax.html#orgb8e0d51
Also, see https://orgmode.org/worg/org-syntax.html#Greater_Elements
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