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From: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr
To: org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Is it normal for 'Org Cycle Hook' to be "CHANGED outside Customize" by '(require 'org-inlinetask)'
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 22:07:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23300.30829.538126.688241@frac.u-strasbg.fr> (raw)

Hello -- 

I run:

  emacs -Q -l mini-init.el

with mini-init.el being 

  (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/cochard/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180521/")
  (require 'org-inlinetask)

Then I do 'M-x customize-group <RET> org <RET>', then search for
'cycle', go to 'Org Cycle Hook', and see:

  Hide Org Cycle Hook:
  INS DEL org-inlinetask-hide-tasks
  INS DEL org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
  INS DEL org-cycle-hide-drawers
  INS DEL org-cycle-show-empty-lines
  INS DEL org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change
  INS
      State : CHANGED outside Customize. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

By comparing with the same test but without the (require
'org-inlinetask) instruction in the mini-init.el file, I infer
(correctly I hope) that, somehow, org-inlinetask has modified 'Org
Cycle Hook' by introducing org-inlinetask-hide-tasks.

In retrospect, this makes some sense, but it was /very/ painful for me
to track.  For me, a customization was something explicitly changed by
the user, not implicitly with a 'require', so, when wandering inside
the customize group and noticing this variable "CHANGED outside
Customize", I wanted to find where I could have changed it so as to
make my .emacs cleaner...

So I repeat the question: is it normal that '(require
'org-inlinetask)' changes 'Org Cycle Hook'.

Note that this issue is not present without the 'add-to-list'
instruction in the mini-init.el file, that is, with org-version 8.2 on
my system -- 'Org Cycle Hook' is not changed.

Regards

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             reply	other threads:[~2018-05-22 20:07 UTC|newest]

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2018-05-22 20:07 Alain.Cochard [this message]
2018-05-26 11:01 ` Is it normal for 'Org Cycle Hook' to be "CHANGED outside Customize" by '(require 'org-inlinetask)' Nicolas Goaziou

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