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From: chris.m.malone@gmail.com
To: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com>
Cc: news1142@karl-voit.at, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:30:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20cf303dd274a4243904a6ef94c1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vcvnvnar.fsf@tsdye.com>

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Hi Tom,

I've seen many of the examples you've added to the mailing list and worg. I  
also enjoy using Org-mode for writing my own documents and webpages -  
currently I'm using it to write my Ph.D. dissertation.

I'm curious how you work on Org-mode papers for publication with  
collaborators? In particular, do all of your collaborators know and use  
Org-mode themselves? Our current method is just to use ordinary LaTeX files  
in a CVS repository for collaboration. I think it would be difficult to get  
my collaborators to all use Org-mode - even though they all use emacs.  
Org-mode has quite a bit of a learning curve that they probably don't have  
the time or patience to learn currently.


On Jun 30, 2011 2:35am, "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> Aloha Karl,

> I agree that AucTeX is awesome. I use it every day at work with much

> pleasure.

> I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible

> research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. In my

> case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass

> results between code blocks written in different languages. I can't do

> these things in AucTeX.

> At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and

> LaTeX. I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little things

> work right. I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd like

> from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently

> that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode.

> The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. I'm really liking it as an

> authoring environment.

> All the best,

> Tom

> Karl Voit writes:

> > * Thomas S. Dye tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:

> >> Aloha Rafael,

> >

> > Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of

> > view.

> >

> > First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now

> > and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners.

> >

> >> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? I find

> >> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in  
> indirect

> >> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. For my work, that

> >> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files.

> >

> > I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that

> > you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via

> > LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode.

> >

> > On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written

> > very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to

> > add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting

> > this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too

> > and so forth.

> >

> > In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick

> > to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune

> > because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for

> > LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and

> > RefTeX).

> >

> > I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents,

> > where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part

> > to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document

> > content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for

> > writing documents that end up being great PDFs.

> >

> > But this is just my point of view.

> --

> Thomas S. Dye

> http://www.tsdye.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-30 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-28 19:15 Exporting latex without preamble Rafael Calsaverini
2011-06-28 19:20 ` Fwd: " Rafael Calsaverini
2011-06-28 23:05   ` Bastien
2011-06-29 14:20     ` Rafael Calsaverini
2011-06-29 16:28       ` Bastien
2011-06-29 16:32         ` Rafael Calsaverini
2011-06-29 16:57       ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-06-29 20:35         ` Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble) Karl Voit
2011-06-30  6:35           ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-06-30 15:30             ` chris.m.malone [this message]
2011-06-30 17:18               ` Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX Thomas S. Dye
2011-06-30 18:11               ` Eric S Fraga
2011-07-01 11:10               ` Collaborating with other people (was: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX) Karl Voit
2011-07-01 11:47                 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-07-01 14:46                   ` Chris Malone
2011-06-30 17:04             ` Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble) Carsten Dominik
2011-06-30 17:23               ` Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX Thomas S. Dye
2011-07-12 19:07               ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-07-12 22:00                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-07-12 22:12                   ` Nick Dokos
2011-07-13  7:28                     ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-07-12 22:16                   ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-07-12 22:45                     ` John Hendy
     [not found]               ` <CA+oe6vppaFbdzO_chuEL+WnUhEsmG4ZsnocLCaqSMVSQe6W8vg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-11-14 13:29                 ` Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble) Daniel Martins
2011-11-14 16:36                   ` Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX Thomas S. Dye
2011-06-30 18:03             ` Markus Heller
2011-07-01  2:58               ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-06-29 17:05       ` Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble suvayu ali

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