From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: possible to make loading org not make any changes? Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:07:40 -0700 Message-ID: <20524da70905061207l7a9897aak41fb83bf12966c45@mail.gmail.com> References: <20524da70905051935w346bd1d4i92f2fb4a1a8ee13e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M1mTP-0002o7-3K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:08:07 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M1mTK-0002bi-FZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:08:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55847 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M1mTK-0002bP-5J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:08:02 -0400 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]:62133) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M1mTJ-0005co-PX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:08:01 -0400 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so235431wfg.24 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 12:08:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Thanks for considering it. I didn't know whether it would be difficult or not. Obviously if it's too hard it's too hard. Background: I was hoping that some bugs I've not been able to track down could be fixed by making loading side-effect free. I thought it might help fix future bugs also. For example, org-return-follows-link seems to stop working for me quite frequently, and I suspect that it has something to do with autoloading or org-reload. It doesn't seem to matter where in .emacs it is set. FWIW my info tree says this: (elisp)Coding Conventions === * Simply loading the package should not change Emacs's editing behavior. Include a command or commands to enable and disable the feature, or to invoke it. === It goes on. Thanks. -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death and severe suffering worse than MS. Conflicts of interest are destroying science. Anybody can get the disease at any time permanently. Do science and justice matter to you? http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm