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From: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
To: Tom Prince <tom.prince@ualberta.net>
Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Getting rid of split frame with org-capture
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:57:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20351.1321207041@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Tom Prince <tom.prince@ualberta.net> of "Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:48:53 EST." <878vnkaryi.fsf@hermes.hocat.ca>

Tom Prince <tom.prince@ualberta.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:13:11 -0500, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
> > Not worth the bother IMO[fn:1], but if you wish to implement it and submit
> > a patch, I'd be happy to review it.
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > Footnotes:
> > 
> > [fn:1] Remember, capture is supposed to be as unobtrusive as possible:
> >        you just want to squirrel away something for future
> >        reference. Bells and whistles (which, IMO, this change would be)
> >        are not the point: you want to get in, record the data and get
> >        out and back to work as fast as possible. Popping up frames slows
> >        things down but more importantly jolts you away from what you
> >        were doing. At least, it would me (I think): that's why I don't
> >        think it's worth it, but you may very well disagree.
> 
> It isn't worth *if* capture is invoked from emacs. If capture is invoked
> from org-protocol in firefox, then there might not even be a emacs frame
> visible.
> 

<OT rant>

org-protocol is below my horizon :-) I had gotten it working a long time
ago, then something happened in ff and broke it, I fixed it, they broke
it again and at some point I gave up: every time I had to fix it, I had
to go back and relearn everything (it's not as if I live and breathe ff
arcana) and do a few hours' worth of research and then try a few dozen
times, tweaking this and that because all the instructions were either
outdated or inconsistent - if "they" are not respectful enough of the
thousands of people that used the feature that they broke and not
cognizant of the pain they produce, I will not use their damn
feature. Similar remarks apply to the "improvements" of Unity and Gnome
3: a plague a' both their houses. All I need the damn desktop to do is
open emacs when I click on the icon and give me enough workspaces for my
needs (which vary). I'd rather do cut-n-paste than waste another second
on org-protocol (mind you, it's not org-protocol's problem: it's the
other side that breaks - but without the other side, org-protocol is
almost useless).

Ah, I feel better now...

</OT rant>

> 1) If I don't pass -c to emacsclient, then I need to search all my
>    workspaces to find where emacs decided to put the capture frame
> 2) If I pass do pass -c to emacsclient, then I need to close the frame
>    afterwards. And more significantly, I need to close the empty frame
>    when I use store-link instead. (I could work around this by using
>    seperate protocols for for each)
> 

Sounds like a worthwhile thing to fix - patches would probably be welcome.

Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-13 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-10 19:08 Getting rid of split frame with org-capture Thomas Lockney
2011-11-12 15:57 ` Gregor Zattler
     [not found]   ` <telegraph@gmx.net>
2011-11-13  4:13     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-13 16:48       ` Tom Prince
2011-11-13 17:57         ` Nick Dokos [this message]
2011-11-20 16:16           ` Tom Prince
2011-12-13 23:11             ` Andreas Leha
2011-12-14 16:37               ` Tom Prince
2013-10-04  4:33                 ` Alexander Vorobiev
2013-10-04  7:06                   ` Alan Schmitt
2011-11-25 16:35           ` Eric S Fraga
2012-01-12 22:12     ` How to debug "org-clock-display: Args out of range: [48230 48230 48230 38618 38618 0 0 0 0 0 ...], 61" Nick Dokos
2012-01-12 22:56       ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-14 16:16         ` [BUG] org-clock-sum cannot handle headings with more than 29 stars (was: Re: How to debug "org-clock-display: Args out of range: [48230 48230) " Gregor Zattler
2012-01-15 15:33         ` How to debug "org-clock-display: Args out of range: [48230 48230 " Stefan Nobis
2012-01-14 18:49     ` [BUG] org-clock-sum cannot handle headings with more than 29 stars (was: Re: How to debug "org-clock-display: Args out of range: [48230 48230) " Nick Dokos
2012-01-22 12:50       ` [BUG][PATCH] document number of stars limitation with respect to org-clock-sum (was: Re: org-clock-sum cannot handle headings with more than 29 stars) Gregor Zattler
2012-01-22 13:15         ` [PATCH 2/3] Document max number of stars in headings in manual Gregor Zattler
2012-01-24 16:10           ` [Accepted] [O, " Bastien Guerry
2012-01-22 13:15         ` [PATCH 1/3] Document max number of stars in headings in docstring of org-inlinetask-minlevel Gregor Zattler
2012-01-24 16:10           ` [Accepted] [O, " Bastien Guerry
2012-01-22 13:30         ` [PATCH 3/3] Document max number of stars in clocking section Gregor Zattler
2012-01-24 16:11           ` [Accepted] [O, " Bastien Guerry
2012-01-24 16:16         ` [BUG][PATCH] document number of stars limitation with respect to org-clock-sum Bastien
2012-10-14  5:31     ` Bug: org-read-date: problem with year in dotted european date input [7.9.2 (release_7.9.2-436-g9b11e6 @ /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/)] Nick Dokos
2013-01-24 18:10     ` How to track down "No heading for this item in buffer or region."? Nick Dokos
2013-01-24 18:31     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-13 20:41 ` Getting rid of split frame with org-capture Nick Dokos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-06  0:21 How to debug "org-clock-display: Args out of range: [48230 48230 48230 38618 38618 0 0 0 0 0 ...], 61" Gregor Zattler
2012-01-06  1:01 ` Bernt Hansen
2012-01-12 21:41   ` Gregor Zattler
2012-01-15 23:07     ` Bernt Hansen
2012-10-11 12:51 how to customise Emacs to recognise 13.10. as 13th of October this year instead of 2010-10-13? Gregor Zattler
2012-10-11 14:13 ` Memnon Anon
2012-10-11 15:20   ` Gregor Zattler
2012-10-12 15:14 ` Bug: org-read-date: problem with year in dotted european date input [7.9.2 (release_7.9.2-436-g9b11e6 @ /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/)] (was: Re: how to customise Emacs to recognise 13.10. as 13th of October this year instead of 2010-10-13?) Gregor Zattler
2012-10-12 16:24   ` Bug: org-read-date: problem with year in dotted european date input [7.9.2 (release_7.9.2-436-g9b11e6 @ /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/)] Nicolas Goaziou
2012-10-13  8:12     ` Gregor Zattler
2012-10-13 10:10       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-10-13 18:44         ` Gregor Zattler
2012-10-14  6:01           ` Carsten Dominik
2012-10-14  7:57             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-10-15  6:39               ` Carsten Dominik
2012-10-15 11:06                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-01-24 12:32 How to track down "No heading for this item in buffer or region."? Gregor Zattler
2013-01-24 12:44 ` Bastien
2013-01-24 16:23   ` Gregor Zattler
2013-01-24 19:07     ` Bastien
2013-01-24 19:24     ` Bastien
2013-01-24 19:35       ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-24 20:29         ` Bastien
2013-01-25  5:20           ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-25 16:11             ` J. David Boyd
2013-01-26 10:51             ` Bastien
2013-01-26 16:45               ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-31 10:43                 ` Bastien

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