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Existing emacs users > 2. Non-emacs users interested in plain text markup > 3. Non-emacs users interested in GTD/project management, etc > "Org mode: your life in plain text" is somewhat relevant when people > are looking to manage "life" (typically true for GTD enthusiasts). > 4. Researchers looking for ipython-like environment > 5. ??? (Suggestions are welcome) I don't think that you can come up with a good website that is able to serve all of them properly. For Orgdown I had in mind number 2 and 3. For supporting the idea for Orgdown, I thought of number 1. (Well, that turned out in a mixed way[1]). If you do want to have a go-to for people who should use the Org-mode syntax without the GNU/Emacs tool, you need to have a separate site. [1] https://karl-voit.at/2021/12/02/Orgdown-feedback -- get mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML into Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < Personal Information Management > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/pim/ Emacs-related > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/emacs/