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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Karl Voit Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638402257; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:references:references:list-id: list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=DiBvjII6TXgserCVB2Vwb5wfNCShpljDpIANz+SbM14=; b=EL+AbtYEOveSY9Tj5FOvS8tl5CBez3XMOeDfOcT6rIwBWBWuZkmj+KGDmh5vIuaxNQkbit G65X1UyGR/XUUkhJh6tmQaRy1ZrvOCaXKik/Sv5cmBuDc2JUbjVKPIuIYGjz3HSmGnZa1q m/Gvso3Z7fVUe/Un/hR2ViytWc2rWq/vOk65SaW640eK+kNKiNUzsv8DZ9qqV/Mcg0rKJy J418RyuT3Nu4pIBoEW9v4AOXSKRYc+uVI0IUSr+m0z0bz5gp4bCHOcy9hJZ5McnCl+HdWi 8/yHrBI7fWBo69P/2WZU9zCWSVwF3oG31/ZyP6SXXrqX+QmbQDdnSvky3tLoZQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638402257; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XjynkiHSAYIv0AGGq4MGnErir6OMl8Mcfzsgu2UKUvvrgwZjg1DqAqKDvp8epMra7OtKxI bEfFTukJtdWtTEZVtMmo5MANDW8L0gp/ePLqgJZIKcr7l9gop/jmgjklIbhVGjtiu2hzL/ UfYA3ERDRq6MqSz+0lXE7WTqM+lSKa6i/etMkAZyvXVHmRDtMckkJjBtmpbQ+BOFAHJ4n7 PLnnxvJpJ8jLYpOWg9/fsjxvw4owp1sftFYvmki5x5r+AovIAIEWZDLUCA3QhExn3W/Rj5 3K8SeEPCGxLZXMrf2HR9jq6Y2ct/5slYNmM0lT7+R+ay5JwpNSOiiwyXjO9DLA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.42 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0DD7E2F59D X-Spam-Score: -2.42 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 9OXA6R4Lq8Tj Hi, I've summarized my current state of mind about the whole Orgdown fiasco into a blog article: https://karl-voit.at/2021/12/02/Orgdown-feedback/ Don't worry, I tried to analyze my own faults as well so that others might be able to learn from this unfortunate situation. -- get mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML into Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < Personal Information Management > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/pim/ Emacs-related > http://Karl-Voit.at/tags/emacs/