From: Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: OT: TUI applications
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 00:39:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171018223954.GG29427@volibear.adamsinfoserv.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9p4f6x0.fsf@gmail.com>
Tim,
While I appreciate the insight, Tk and web apps are outside the scope of what I'm looking for. I've used Tk with Python
and Perl and don't care for it.
I value the low overhead, speed, and simplicity of terminal applications. I use Mutt for all my email, and the only GUI
app I use with any regularity is Firefox.
I'm trying to find a fast way to implement similar terminal applications for simple databases that I use casually.
Thanks.
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 09:05:47AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
>
> There is actually lots of these frameworks and libraries in many
> different languages, so it really depends on what you are most
> comfortable working in. I have used both Emacs forms and widgets in the
> past. For example, I've used forms as an intermediate step between emacs
> and a backend store where I have 'batch' commands which retrieve the
> data into a file which forms use as input and then after editing the
> data using Emacs forms, write the data back to the backend store (making
> the forms a sort of 'batch' processor).
>
> For shell scripts, whiptail, zenity and dialog usually work and if I
> need something a little more, I've used Tcl/Tk or perl/Tk.
>
> However, I am now trying to reduce my level of context switching between
> different languages. As I'm doing more and more in the web environment,
> I'm now playing with electron (atom shell), which allows me to easily do
> a desktop app just using html, CSS and javascript (actually, my
> intention is to use Clojurescript).
>
> I've actually found that even with basic TUI libraries, there is still
> too much low level stuff I don't want to worry about. Being able to use
> a JS library I'm familiar with and avoid all the web server, browser
> differences etc is much faster and simpler, plus the more I use it, the
> easier it gets as I build up my own modules etc.
>
> Tim
>
> Russell Adams writes:
>
> > Given the unique user base of Org, I wanted to ask a question.
> >
> > Has anyone seen any modern development libraries for TUI (console / character cell) applications? Ncurses the library is
> > not an answer as you have to start from scratch. There are thousands of web frameworks, and yet console is infinitely
> > simpler than a LAMP stack, but there are no prepackaged libraries for working with it (ie: forms, widgets, etc).
> >
> > I frequently find myself in the position to need a small custom database application for this or that (contacts,
> > invoicing, recipes!). Python (or similar) + SQLite seems like a no brainer, except I don't want webapps or a giant GUI
> > program like libreoffice Base. I'd use something that was text forms based like an old dBase product.
> >
> > I've looked at Emacs forms, but they appear to be only for editing CSV data.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-18 13:23 OT: TUI applications Russell Adams
2017-10-18 13:58 ` Allan Streib
2017-10-18 14:44 ` Russell Adams
2017-10-18 15:55 ` Grant Rettke
2017-10-18 16:47 ` Russell Adams
2017-10-20 16:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-10-18 22:05 ` Tim Cross
2017-10-18 22:39 ` Russell Adams [this message]
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