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From: Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Subject: Re: Target and link text normalised to `orgtargetn'
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:24:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150419132425.GA14328@chitra.no-ip.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87618smg2i.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Hi Nicolas,

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 02:57:09PM +0200, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Sorry, I don't think I quite understand.  AFAIU, targets like
> > <<interesting>> have to be unique even inside the Org buffer for links
> > like this to work: [[interesting][very cool]], regardless of export.  So
> > then why rename them during export?
> 
> There's no guarantee that, e.g., \label{interesting} is a valid syntax.
> Think about <<100%>> for LaTeX. Actually such links were broken for
> non-ASCII characters before the patch.
> 
> Note that this is transparent for the user: if <<interesting>> becomes
> \label{foo}, [[interesting][very cool]] automatically becomes
> \hyperref[foo]{very cool}.
> 
> Your problem is different AFAIU. You are relying on the internal pattern
> of generated labels, i.e., you are eating Org's dog food. I advise
> against it.

Yes indeed.  I wanted to use the location information provided by
refstyle, and varioref.  By using \secref or \vpageref I would get
references like: section §3, on page 5, etc.

> If you need explicitly "\label{interesting}", ask Org to write it with,
> e.g., "@@latex:\label{foo}@@" or even better
> 
> #+MACRO: lbl @@latex:\label{$1}@@
> 
>   {{{lbl(foo)}}}
>

Okay I see it now, in your last email I got a bit confused, but now I
follow.  With your solution I use both label and reference using LaTeX,
bypassing Org.  Of course this leaves me with links not working inside
Org.  I was eventually going to use filters to transform the ref
commands to the alternate ones from refstyle and varioref to get both
LaTeX and Org side working as I wanted.  Something like this:

  <<sec:interesting>>

  [[sec:interesting]]

Then transform \ref{sec:interesting} → \secref{sec:interesting} with a
filter; that way I would have my cake and eat it too!  I see your point
though.

Thanks a lot for the comments.  :)

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-19 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-14  9:25 Target and link text normalised to `orgtargetn' Suvayu Ali
2015-04-14 12:08 ` Suvayu Ali
2015-04-14 12:59   ` Rasmus
2015-04-14 13:37     ` Andreas Leha
2015-04-15 22:57   ` Rasmus
2015-04-16  0:18     ` Suvayu Ali
2015-04-16 10:11       ` Rasmus
2015-04-18 21:53         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-19 12:13           ` Suvayu Ali
2015-04-19 12:57             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-19 13:24               ` Suvayu Ali [this message]
2015-04-19 13:40                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-19 13:49                   ` Suvayu Ali
2015-04-19 13:56                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-19 14:06                       ` Suvayu Ali
2015-04-19 14:02               ` Rasmus
2015-04-19 14:36                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-19 14:55                   ` Rasmus
2015-04-19 15:17                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-19 17:16                       ` Rasmus
2015-04-19 18:36                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-20  8:55                           ` Rasmus
2015-04-20  9:09                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-20  9:25                               ` Rasmus
2015-04-20  9:58                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-20 10:02                                   ` Rasmus
2015-04-20 10:33                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-20 13:13                                       ` Rasmus
2015-04-20 15:35                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-20 20:11                                           ` Rasmus
2015-04-20 21:03                                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-24 13:35                                               ` Rasmus
2015-04-24 19:42                                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-04-27 22:08                                                   ` Rasmus
2015-04-27 22:15                                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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