From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Karl Voit Subject: Re: converting people to Emacs and org-mode Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:16:47 +0200 Message-ID: <2013-04-13T10-10-06@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> References: <20130409082910.GB19371@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> Reply-To: news1142@Karl-Voit.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40781) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQvdo-00005t-Lm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 04:16:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQvdn-00037e-Jt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 04:16:56 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQvdn-00037Y-DP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 04:16:55 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UQvdm-0001fd-HM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:16:54 +0200 Received: from mail.michael-prokop.at ([88.198.6.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:16:54 +0200 Received: from news1142 by mail.michael-prokop.at with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:16:54 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org * Suvayu Ali wrote: > > Personally I think, any attempts at conversion is futile. I agree only for cases, where the person does not have issues with the current editor/workflow. > Just like real religion, choosing an editor is an immensely > personal decision if editing text (in whatever form, source code, > or prose) is a major part of your day. >From my experience, I do have to disagree in this point. *Most* people do not care at all, which editor they are using. Most people did not spend a reasonable time on the decision which tools they are using. The issue for most people is that there is a change of habits, not a change of editor. Only a small percentage of people really do care about a specific product. The others are happy to switch in case they see a certain amount of benefits. Without any proper set of benefits, it's a religious war, I agree. In case of Emacs, there is *always* a proper set of benefits if you are willing to learn this monster IMHO :-) -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github