From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Karl Voit Subject: Re: Toggle between active and inactive timestamp in CLOCK line does not make sense Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:25:39 +0200 Message-ID: <2012-06-26T12-47-32@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> References: Reply-To: news1142@Karl-Voit.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjTuE-0000Gv-V0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:26:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjTu8-0006NP-Jv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:26:02 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:53234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjTu8-0006N6-D9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:25:56 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjTu4-0003d7-P8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:25:52 +0200 Received: from mail.michael-prokop.at ([88.198.6.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:25:52 +0200 Received: from news1142 by mail.michael-prokop.at with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:25:52 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org * Rainer Stengele wrote: > Hi, Hallo Reiner! > having a CLOCK line: (example) > [2012-06-26 Di 11:00] CLOCK: [2012-06-26 Di 11:00]--[2012-06-26 Di 12:00] => 1:00 > > many times I do adjust the timestamps. > Unintentionally having point on "]" and or "[" instead of the minute part of the timestamp > and shifting up or down in order to increase or decrease the timestamp the keypress switches the "]" to ">" > and the "[" to "<". > > I would suggest to stop this behaviour, as it does not make sense in a CLOCK line. I suggest to keep this behavior because: - it is consistent: being on brackets change the type. Everywhere, not just outside of CLOCK lines. - Org-mode changes the timestamp according to the position of the cursor: on year it changes the year, on month it changes the month, on day it changes the day, on hour it changes the hour, on minute it changes the minutes (in 5 minutes steps). On the bracket, it changes the type. I really do not intend to offend you but you should simply position your cursor more carefully since changing timestamps simply is related to that position as described above. Or maybe there is a variable which could deactivate timestamp type change behavior in general. You might be right with «Toggle between active and inactive timestamp in CLOCK line does not make sense» but I do think that «the toggle mechanism to change timestamp type behaves consistently everywhere» is more important here. -- Karl Voit