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* org file for reference card?
@ 2011-12-16  3:37 Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-20 22:56 ` Bastien
  2011-12-21  9:20 ` Alan E. Davis
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Vikas Rawal @ 2011-12-16  3:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Isn't it odd that a tex file is distributed with orgmode, a pdf and a
text file available on the website. Should we not have a .org version
of the reference card? Can't orgmode produce the reference card pdf from
a .org file?

Vikas

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-16  3:37 org file for reference card? Vikas Rawal
@ 2011-12-20 22:56 ` Bastien
  2011-12-21  3:48   ` Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-21  9:20 ` Alan E. Davis
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-12-20 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Vikas,

Vikas Rawal <vikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> writes:

> Isn't it odd that a tex file is distributed with orgmode, a pdf and a
> text file available on the website. Should we not have a .org version
> of the reference card? 

Good idea -- can you draft something in .org and upload it to Worg?

  http://orgmode.org/worg/

> Can't orgmode produce the reference card pdf from a .org file?

That's another story.  We cannot do this for now, but future is
always uncertain :)

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-20 22:56 ` Bastien
@ 2011-12-21  3:48   ` Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-21  9:15     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Vikas Rawal @ 2011-12-21  3:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

> 
> > Isn't it odd that a tex file is distributed with orgmode, a pdf and a
> > text file available on the website. Should we not have a .org version
> > of the reference card? 
> 
> Good idea -- can you draft something in .org and upload it to Worg?
> 
>   http://orgmode.org/worg/
> 
> > Can't orgmode produce the reference card pdf from a .org file?
> 
> That's another story.  We cannot do this for now, but future is
> always uncertain :)

I will try to produce an org file but the real utility would be if we
could find a way to produce a pdf out it. My skills are limited and I
really do not know if there is a way to specify a template that will
export the org file with the desired layout. 

The utility of an org file (against a tex or a pdf file) will be that
the org gile will allow users to to easily customise their
refcards. That is, if I am interested in a subset of commands rather
than the whole set, an org file could be easily edited and then
exported.

Wonder if it interests the community.

Vikas

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-21  3:48   ` Vikas Rawal
@ 2011-12-21  9:15     ` Bastien
  2011-12-22 12:25       ` Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-22 13:40       ` Vikas Rawal
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-12-21  9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Vikas,

Vikas Rawal <vikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> writes:

> I will try to produce an org file but the real utility would be if we
> could find a way to produce a pdf out it. 

We can write a dedicated exporter for that.  Basically, it just needs to
insert a specific header (see doc/orgcard.tex) and to convert list items
into \key{...}{...} entries -- those kinds of things are now possible
with org-element.el and org-export.el.

> My skills are limited and I
> really do not know if there is a way to specify a template that will
> export the org file with the desired layout. 
>
> The utility of an org file (against a tex or a pdf file) will be that
> the org gile will allow users to to easily customise their
> refcards. 

Yes -- I completely agree.

> That is, if I am interested in a subset of commands rather
> than the whole set, an org file could be easily edited and then
> exported.
>
> Wonder if it interests the community.

At least I am interested :)  Having an org-clone of the Org reference 
card on worg is a good start IMHO.

Thanks again!

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-16  3:37 org file for reference card? Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-20 22:56 ` Bastien
@ 2011-12-21  9:20 ` Alan E. Davis
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2011-12-21  9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


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Vikas:

Along a similar vein,

Some time ago ( over a year ago) I started an org mode help file.   I lost
track of it at the point where babel appeared on the horizon...   It's
hopelessly out of date.  Very useful, and perhaps I'll pick it up soon and
work on it.   It was built up from bare bones text of the reference card.

I am not sure it is what you want, but it's wonderful way to have an online
reference.  One feature has been to hae each topic then a link into the
relative section of the manual.

Maybe I'll clean it up, but lots has changed in the interim.

Alan

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Vikas Rawal <
vikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> wrote:

> Isn't it odd that a tex file is distributed with orgmode, a pdf and a
> text file available on the website. Should we not have a .org version
> of the reference card? Can't orgmode produce the reference card pdf from
> a .org file?
>
> Vikas
>
>

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-21  9:15     ` Bastien
@ 2011-12-22 12:25       ` Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-22 13:23         ` Sebastien Vauban
  2011-12-22 13:40       ` Vikas Rawal
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Vikas Rawal @ 2011-12-22 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

> 
> We can write a dedicated exporter for that.  Basically, it just needs to
> insert a specific header (see doc/orgcard.tex) and to convert list items
> into \key{...}{...} entries -- those kinds of things are now possible
> with org-element.el and org-export.el.

I will come up with the bare bones org file. Somebody will have to
help with the exporter. I have no clue of how this is done.

> >
> > Wonder if it interests the community.
> 
> At least I am interested :)  

That's good start. We are already three.

Let us start by a basic org file and see how far we can reach.

Thanks,

Vikas

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-22 12:25       ` Vikas Rawal
@ 2011-12-22 13:23         ` Sebastien Vauban
  2011-12-23 17:53           ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2011-12-22 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ

Hi Vikas,

Vikas Rawal wrote:
>>
>> We can write a dedicated exporter for that.  Basically, it just needs to
>> insert a specific header (see doc/orgcard.tex) and to convert list items
>> into \key{...}{...} entries -- those kinds of things are now possible
>> with org-element.el and org-export.el.
>
> I will come up with the bare bones org file. Somebody will have to
> help with the exporter. I have no clue of how this is done.
>
> Let us start by a basic org file and see how far we can reach.

It could be wise that this Org refcard would be usable by anything-orgcard as
well. It currently uses a text file located at http://orgmode.org/orgcard.txt.

Updating the code of M. Sakurai _should_ not be too difficult to make it work
from a real Org file (instead of a text file).

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sebastien Vauban

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-21  9:15     ` Bastien
  2011-12-22 12:25       ` Vikas Rawal
@ 2011-12-22 13:40       ` Vikas Rawal
  2011-12-23 17:51         ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Vikas Rawal @ 2011-12-22 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: bzg

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In the attached file, I have put the text of the reference card in org
syntax. Please see and help improve.

Bastien and others, please suggest the way forward from here.

Vikas


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#+STARTUP: hidestars
#+TITLE: Org-Mode Reference Card
#+OPTIONS: toc:nil
* Getting Started
**** To read the on-line documentation try             M-x org-info
* Visibility Cycling
**** rotate current subtree between states             TAB
**** rotate entire buffer between states               S-TAB
**** restore property-dependent startup visibility     C-u C-u TAB
**** show the whole file, including drawers            C-u C-u C-u TAB
**** reveal context around point                       C-c C-r

* Motion
**** next/previous heading                             C-c C-n/p
**** next/previous heading, same level                 C-c C-f/b
**** backward to higher level heading                  C-c C-u
**** jump to another place in document                 C-c C-j
**** previous/next plain list item                     S-UP/DOWN [fn:2]
* Structure Editing
**** insert new heading/item at current level          M-RET
**** insert new heading after subtree                  C-RET
**** insert new TODO entry/checkbox item               M-S-RET
**** insert TODO entry/ckbx after subtree              C-S-RET
**** turn (head)line into item, cycle item type        C-c -
**** turn item/line into headline                      C-c *
**** promote/demote heading                            M-LEFT/RIGHT
**** promote/demote current subtree                    M-S-LEFT/RIGHT
**** move subtree/list item up/down                    M-S-UP/DOWN
**** sort subtree/region/plain-list                    C-c ^
**** clone a subtree                                   C-c C-x c
**** copy visible text                                 C-c C-x v
**** kill/copy subtree                                 C-c C-x C-w/M-w
**** yank subtree                                      C-c C-x C-y or C-y
**** narrow buffer to subtree / widen                  C-x n s/w

* Capture - Refile - Archiving
**** capture a new item (C-u C-u = goto last)          C-c c [fn:1]
**** refile subtree (C-u C-u = goto last)              C-c C-w
**** archive subtree using the default command         C-c C-x C-a
**** move subtree to archive file                      C-c C-x C-s
**** toggle ARCHIVE tag / to ARCHIVE sibling           C-c C-x a/A
**** force cycling of an ARCHIVEd tree                 C-TAB
* Filtering and Sparse Trees
**** construct a sparse tree by various criteria       C-c /
**** view TODO's in sparse tree                        C-c / t/T
**** global TODO list in agenda mode                   C-c a t [fn:1]
**** time sorted view of current org file              C-c a L
* Tables
*** Creating a table
**** just start typing, e.g.                           |Name|Phone|Age RET |- TAB
**** convert region to table                           C-c |
**** ... separator at least 3 spaces                   C-3 C-c |
** Commands available inside tables

The following commands work when the cursor is inside a table.
Outside of tables, the same keys may have other functionality.

*** Re-aligning and field motion
**** re-align the table without moving the cursor      C-c C-c
**** re-align the table, move to next field            TAB
**** move to previous field                            S-TAB
**** re-align the table, move to next row              RET
**** move to beginning/end of field                    M-a/e

*** Row and column editing
**** move the current column left                      M-LEFT/RIGHT
**** kill the current column                           M-S-LEFT
**** insert new column to left of cursor position      M-S-RIGHT
**** move the current row up/down                      M-UP/DOWN
**** kill the current row or horizontal line           M-S-UP
**** insert new row above the current row              M-S-DOWN
**** insert hline below (C-u : above) current row      C-c -
**** insert hline and move to line below it            C-c RET
**** sort lines in region                              C-c ^

*** Regions
**** cut/copy/paste rectangular region                 C-c C-x C-w/M-w/C-y
**** fill paragraph across selected cells              C-c C-q

*** Miscellaneous
**** to limit column width to N characters, use        ...| <N> |...
**** edit the current field in a separate window       C-c `
**** make current field fully visible                  C-u TAB
**** export as tab-separated file                      M-x org-table-export
**** import tab-separated file                         M-x org-table-import
**** sum numbers in current column/rectangle           C-c +

** Tables created with the table.el package
**** insert a new table.el table                       C-c ~
**** recognize existing table.el table                 C-c C-c
**** convert table (Org-mode <-> table.el)             C-c ~

** Spreadsheet

**** Formulas typed in field are executed by TAB, RET and C-c C-c.  
**** = introduces a column formula, := a field formula.
**** Example: Add Col1 and Col2                        |=1+2      |
**** ... with printf format specification              |=1+2;%.2f|
**** ... with constants from constants.el              |=1/c/cm |
**** sum from 2nd to 3rd hline                         |:=vsum(@II..@III)|
**** apply current column formula                      | = |
**** set and eval column formula                       C-c =
**** set and eval field formula                        C-u C-c =
**** re-apply all stored equations to current line     C-c *
**** re-apply all stored equations to entire table     C-u C-c *
**** iterate table to stability                        C-u C-u C-c *
**** rotate calculation mark through # * ! ^ _        C-#
**** show line, column, formula reference              C-c ?
**** toggle grid / debugger                            C-c }/{

** Formula Editor
**** edit formulas in separate buffer                  C-c '
**** exit and install new formulas                     C-c C-c
**** exit, install, and apply new formulas             C-u C-c C-c
**** abort                                             C-c C-q
**** toggle reference style                            C-c C-r
**** pretty-print Lisp formula                         TAB
**** complete Lisp symbol                              M-TAB
**** shift reference point                             S-cursor
**** shift test line for column references             M-up/down
**** scroll the window showing the table               M-S-up/down
**** toggle table coordinate grid                      C-c }

* Links

**** globally store link to the current location       C-c l [fn:1]
**** insert a link (TAB completes stored links)        C-c C-l
**** insert file link with file name completion        C-u C-c C-l
**** edit (also hidden part of) link at point          C-c C-l
**** open file links in emacs                          C-c C-o
**** ...force open in emacs/other window               C-u C-c C-o
**** open link at point                                mouse-1/2
**** ...force open in emacs/other window               mouse-3
**** record a position in mark ring                    C-c %
**** jump back to last followed link(s)                C-c &
**** find next link                                    C-c C-x C-n
**** find previous link                                C-c C-x C-p
**** edit code snippet of file at point                C-c '
**** toggle inline display of linked images            C-c C-x C-v

* Working with Code (Babel)

**** execute code block at point                       C-c C-c
**** open results of code block at point               C-c C-o
**** check code block at point for errors              C-c C-v c
**** insert a header argument with completion          C-c C-v j
**** view expanded body of code block at point         C-c C-v v
**** view information about code block at point        C-c C-v I
**** go to named code block                            C-c C-v g
**** go to named result                                C-c C-v r
**** go to the head of the current code block          C-c C-v u
**** go to the next code block                         C-c C-v n
**** go to the previous code block                     C-c C-v p
**** demarcate a code block                            C-c C-v d
**** execute the next key sequence in the code edit bu C-c C-v x
**** execute all code blocks in current buffer         C-c C-v b
**** execute all code blocks in current subtree        C-c C-v s
**** tangle code blocks in current file                C-c C-v t
**** tangle code blocks in supplied file               C-c C-v f
**** ingest all code blocks in supplied file into the  C-c C-v i
**** switch to the session of the current code block   C-c C-v z
**** load the current code block into a session        C-c C-v l
**** view sha1 hash of the current code block          C-c C-v a

* Completion

In-buffer completion completes TODO keywords at headline start, TeX
macros after `\', option keywords after `#-', TAGS after  `:', and dictionary words elsewhere.

**** complete word at point                            M-TAB

* TODO Items and Checkboxes

**** rotate the state of the current item              C-c C-t
**** select next/previous state                        S-LEFT/RIGHT
**** select next/previous set                          C-S-LEFT/RIGHT
**** toggle ORDERED property                           C-c C-x o
**** view TODO items in a sparse tree                  C-c C-v
**** view 3rd TODO keyword's sparse tree               C-3 C-c C-v

**** set the priority of the current item              C-c , [ABC]
**** remove priority cookie from current item          C-c , SPC
**** raise/lower priority of current item              S-UP/DOWN [fn:2]
**** insert new checkbox item in plain list            M-S-RET
**** toggle checkbox(es) in region/entry/at point      C-c C-x C-b
**** toggle checkbox at point                          C-c C-c
**** update checkbox statistics (C-u : whole file)     C-c #

* Tags

**** set tags for current heading                      C-c C-q
**** realign tags in all headings                      C-u C-c C-q
**** create sparse tree with matching tags             C-c \\
**** globally (agenda) match tags at cursor            C-c C-o

* Properties and Column View
**** set property/effort                               C-c C-x p/e
**** special commands in property lines                C-c C-c
**** next/previous allowed value                       S-left/right
**** turn on column view                               C-c C-x C-c
**** capture columns view in dynamic block             C-c C-x i

**** quit column view                                  q
**** show full value                                   v
**** edit value                                        e
**** next/previous allowed value                       n/p or S-left/right
**** edit allowed values list                          a
**** make column wider/narrower                        > / <
**** move column left/right                            M-left/right
**** add new column                                    M-S-right
**** Delete current column                             M-S-left

* Timestamps
**** prompt for date and insert timestamp              C-c .
**** like C-c . but insert date and time format        C-u C-c .
**** like C-c . but make stamp inactive                C-c !
**** insert DEADLINE timestamp                         C-c C-d
**** insert SCHEDULED timestamp                        C-c C-s
**** create sparse tree with all deadlines due         C-c / d
**** the time between 2 dates in a time range          C-c C-y
**** change timestamp at cursor ±1 day                S-RIGHT/LEFT [fn:2]
**** change year/month/day at cursor by ±1            S-UP/DOWN [fn:2]
**** access the calendar for the current date          C-c >
**** insert timestamp matching date in calendar        C-c <
**** access agenda for current date                    C-c C-o
**** select date while prompted                        mouse-1/RET
**** toggle custom format display for dates/times      C-c C-x C-t
** Clocking time
**** start clock on current item                       C-c C-x C-i
**** stop/cancel clock on current item                 C-c C-x C-o/x
**** display total subtree times                       C-c C-x C-d
**** remove displayed times                            C-c C-c
**** insert/update table with clock report             C-c C-x C-r     
* Agenda Views
**** add/move current file to front of agenda          C-c [
**** remove current file from your agenda              C-c ]
**** cycle through agenda file list                    C-'
**** set/remove restriction lock                       C-c C-x </>
**** compile agenda for the current week               C-c a a [fn:1]
**** compile global TODO list                          C-c a t [fn:1]
**** compile TODO list for specific keyword            C-c a T [fn:1]
**** match tags, TODO kwds, properties                 C-c a m [fn:1]
**** match only in TODO entries                        C-c a M [fn:1]
**** find stuck projects                               C-c a # [fn:1]
**** show timeline of current org file                 C-c a L [fn:1]
**** configure custom commands                         C-c a C [fn:1]
**** agenda for date at cursor                         C-c C-o     
** Commands available in an agenda buffer
*** View Org file
**** show original location of item                    SPC/mouse-3
**** show and recenter window                          L
**** goto original location in other window            TAB/mouse-2
**** goto original location, delete other windows      RET
**** show subtree in indirect buffer, ded.\ frame      C-c C-x b
**** toggle follow-mode                                F

*** Change display
**** delete other windows                              o
**** view mode dispatcher                              v
**** switch to day/week/month/year/def view            d w vm vy vSP
**** toggle diary entries / time grid / habits         D / G / K
**** toggle entry text / clock report                  E / R
**** toggle display of logbook entries                 l / v l/L/c
**** toggle inclusion of archived trees/files          v a/A
**** refresh agenda buffer with any changes            r / g
**** filter with respect to a tag                      /
**** save all org-mode buffers                         s
**** display next/previous day,week,...                f / b
**** goto today / some date (prompt)                   . / j
*** Remote editing
**** digit argument                                    0-9
**** change state of current TODO item                 t
**** kill item and source                              C-k
**** archive default                                    / a
**** refile the subtree                                C-c C-w
**** set/show tags of current headline                 : / T
**** set effort property (prefix=nth)                  e
**** set / compute priority of current item            , / P
**** raise/lower priority of current item              S-UP/DOWN [fn:2]
**** run an attachment command                         C-c C-a
**** schedule/set deadline for this item               C-c C-s/d
**** change timestamp one day earlier/later            S-LEFT/RIGHT [fn:2]
**** change timestamp to today                         >
**** insert new entry into diary                       i
**** start/stop/cancel the clock on current item       I / O / X
**** jump to running clock entry                       J
**** mark / unmark / execute bulk action               m / u / B
*** Misc
**** follow one or offer all links in current entry    C-c C-o
*** Calendar commands
**** find agenda cursor date in calendar               c
**** compute agenda for calendar cursor date           c
**** show phases of the moon                           M
**** show sunrise/sunset times                         S
**** show holidays                                     H
**** convert date to other calendars                   C
*** Quit and Exit
**** quit agenda, remove agenda buffer                 q
**** exit agenda, remove all agenda buffers            x
* LaTeX and cdlatex-mode
**** preview LaTeX fragment                            C-c C-x C-l
**** expand abbreviation (cdlatex-mode)                TAB
**** insert/modify math symbol (cdlatex-mode)          ` / '
**** insert citation using RefTeX                      C-c C-x [
* Exporting and Publishing
Exporting creates files with extensions .txt and .html in the current
directory. Publishing puts the resulting file into some other place.
**** export/publish dispatcher                         C-c C-e

**** export visible part only                          C-c C-e v
**** insert template of export options                 C-c C-e t
**** toggle fixed width for entry or region            C-c :
**** toggle pretty display of scripts, entities        C-c C-x {\tt\char`\}

**** Comments: Text not being exported
     Lines starting with # and subtrees starting with COMMENT are never exported.
**** toggle COMMENT keyword on entry                   C-c ;
* Dynamic Blocks
**** update dynamic block at point                     C-c C-x C-u
**** update all dynamic blocks                         C-u C-c C-x C-u
* 
[fn:1] This is only a suggestion for a binding of this command. Choose your own key as shown under ACTIVATION.
[fn:2] Keybinding affected by org-support-shift-select and also org-replace-disputed-keys.

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-22 13:40       ` Vikas Rawal
@ 2011-12-23 17:51         ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-12-23 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Vikas,

Vikas Rawal <vikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> writes:

> In the attached file, I have put the text of the reference card in org
> syntax. Please see and help improve.

Thanks a lot for this file.  

I've added it to Worg and edited it:
  http://orgmode.org/worg/orgcard.html

There are a few places where we need to fix truncated strings
and problematic lines, but on the overall, I think it is really
useful.  

Next step is to see how to build the .pdf and .txt version 
from that -- but I'd say it's possible.  

Thanks again!

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: org file for reference card?
  2011-12-22 13:23         ` Sebastien Vauban
@ 2011-12-23 17:53           ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-12-23 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Sébastien,

"Sebastien Vauban" <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> It could be wise that this Org refcard would be usable by
> anything-orgcard as well. It currently uses a text file located at
> http://orgmode.org/orgcard.txt.

Good idea.

I'd say that using the .org should not be more difficult than using the
.txt file, but I don't know the details behind anything-orgcard.

> Updating the code of M. Sakurai _should_ not be too difficult to make it work
> from a real Org file (instead of a text file).

Hopefully M. Sakurai will bend his head over it -- please first things
first, let's make this orgcard.org more useful on Worg!

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

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