From: Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-mode is not able to manage complex calendar events
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:24:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2011-06-21T19-06-18@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87ei2nz09l.fsf@ucl.ac.uk
* Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
>
> Better yet, however, is to update the documentation yourself and submit
> a patch!
Pulled the current Org-mode files, read the contribution
instructions[1], found the spot where the information should go and
... boom:
,----[ http://orgmode.org/org.html#Repeated-tasks ]
| An alternative to using a repeater is to create a number of copies
| of a task subtree, with dates shifted in each copy. The command C-c
| C-x c was created for this purpose, it is described in Structure
| editing.
`----
Shame on me - I must have overlooked this important thing :-(
>> I'd be glad to see something like this:
>>
>> * Event <2011-06-21 Tue +1w> <-2011-06-28 Tue>
>>
>> ... which lets me express an exception (each tuesday starting with
>> today but not next week) in an easy to use way.
>
> Not possible without use of sexp entries, as far as I know.
I know. I was dreaming of a future functionality which is easy to
use (and easy to implement?) for the masses that are not yet
enlightened with the knowledge of ELISP :-)
> The trick to using org is to realise that everything in life is
> really oriented around tasks;
I will remember this statement and think of it the next days ...
> calendaring then comes automatically from this! The problem is
> that most people have gotten used to separating tasks from
> calendar views (cf. separation between tasks lists and
> appointments) and so moving to org can be a bit of a culture
> shock. If you start thinking from the tasks first, the rest
> follows.
Hehe. Funny you mention that. Because I am using DateBk6[2] for
PalmOS which integrates tasks into the calendar (very well!). So
this is kina reverse thinking for me now.
(Maybe you can think of «adding a different point of view to
Org-mode» if you want.)
> For instance, I'm working on a project; call it A. I create a
> headline for this project (or a file, or a sub-headline,
> whatever). Under this headline, I will create entries for
> finances, meetings, notes, actions, etc. Everything in one place.
I am currently adopting and developing my workflows for this, yes.
> Org then provides a number of "views" to look at different aspects
> of this project: agenda view (akin to a calendar), column view,
> sparse tree view, tags view, ... All of these allow you to see,
> easily, the particular aspects of a project, or collection of
> projects, that are important at any point.
I consider this the most important «feature» of Org-mode.
I am dedicating my PhD (not only but mainly) to the notion that
information visualization should not be depending on the structure
the information is *stored* but only depending on the way I need to
have while *accessing* it.
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>> * Event <2011-06-21 Tue>
>> * Event <2011-06-28 Tue>
>> * Event <2011-07-05 Tue>
>> * Event <2011-07-12 Tue +1w>
>>
>> But I aim in a slightly different direction:
>>
>> * Event
>> <2011-06-21 Tue>
>> <2011-06-28 Tue>: additional note
>> <2011-07-05 Tue>
>> <2011-07-12 Tue +1w>
>
> I would argue that this is a more limiting view as it is difficult to
> add notes to each individual event, something I would often (always?)
> want to do! If each event (meeting?) is a sub-headline of its own,
> adding notes, actions that arise, etc is very easy.
>
> Again, you can use org to "view" the information you have in different
> ways so I would suggest you explore these views. For the above, maybe a
> Log view in the agenda might give you what you want.
True. I'll give it a try.
PS: Thanks for the help so far and I appreciate the community and
discussion here very much.
1. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html
2. http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk6.htm
3. http://tagstore.org
--
Karl Voit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-21 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-18 2:09 org and microsoft exchange Skip Collins
2011-06-20 7:52 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-06-20 11:53 ` Holger Wenzel
2011-06-20 12:01 ` Skip Collins
2011-06-20 14:13 ` Jonathan Arkell
2011-06-26 13:35 ` Matthieu Lemerre
2011-06-27 17:14 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-06-27 19:13 ` Matthieu Lemerre
2011-06-28 23:16 ` Bastien
2011-07-07 19:13 ` Matthieu Lemerre
2011-07-08 9:26 ` Bastien
2011-06-29 16:44 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-07-07 19:21 ` Matthieu Lemerre
2011-07-08 9:02 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-07-08 22:14 ` Achim Gratz
2011-06-20 11:53 ` Org-mode is not able to manage complex calendar events (was: org and microsoft exchange) Karl Voit
2011-06-20 14:38 ` Org-mode is not able to manage complex calendar events Eric S Fraga
2011-06-20 15:51 ` Karl Voit
2011-06-20 17:19 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-06-21 12:32 ` Karl Voit
2011-06-21 12:50 ` Rémi Vanicat
2011-06-21 16:46 ` Karl Voit
2011-06-21 15:12 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-06-21 17:24 ` Karl Voit [this message]
2011-06-28 9:36 ` Bastien
2011-06-28 12:19 ` How to place a feature wish (was: Org-mode is not able to manage complex calendar events) Karl Voit
2011-06-20 18:48 ` Org-mode is not able to manage complex calendar events Memnon Anon
2011-07-01 15:18 ` Bastien
2011-07-01 16:25 ` Karl Voit
2011-07-02 9:21 ` Bastien
2011-07-02 10:20 ` Karl Voit
2011-06-20 14:42 ` org and microsoft exchange Philipp Haselwarter
2011-06-20 15:04 ` Nick Dokos
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