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* Inactive Timestamps
@ 2008-03-21 16:47 Russell Adams
  2008-03-22 17:24 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Russell Adams @ 2008-03-21 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs-orgmode

I routinely use inactive timestamps during long tasks to document when
items occurred. I use inactive timestamps because I don't want to
litter my agenda view during normal use.

However I recently discovered the agenda timeline view, which is a
great way for me to review when things occurred. The flip side is that
I'm not seeing details because of my use of inactive timestamps.

Could a toggle be added to turn on/off viewing of inactive timestamps?
I don't want to clutter my normal agenda view, but have the ability to
turn on detail if needed.

Thanks.

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* Re: Inactive Timestamps
  2008-03-21 16:47 Inactive Timestamps Russell Adams
@ 2008-03-22 17:24 ` Carsten Dominik
  2008-03-24 15:46   ` Russell Adams
  2008-04-10 10:50 ` Carsten Dominik
  2008-04-10 12:56 ` Carsten Dominik
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-03-22 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell Adams; +Cc: Emacs-orgmode

I am afraid this is going to be hard, the use of active timestamps is  
quite strongly hardcoded.  I have made a not on my todo list, but I a  
not optimistic.

- Carsten

On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Russell Adams wrote:

> I routinely use inactive timestamps during long tasks to document when
> items occurred. I use inactive timestamps because I don't want to
> litter my agenda view during normal use.
>
> However I recently discovered the agenda timeline view, which is a
> great way for me to review when things occurred. The flip side is that
> I'm not seeing details because of my use of inactive timestamps.
>
> Could a toggle be added to turn on/off viewing of inactive timestamps?
> I don't want to clutter my normal agenda view, but have the ability to
> turn on detail if needed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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>
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* Re: Inactive Timestamps
  2008-03-22 17:24 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-03-24 15:46   ` Russell Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2008-03-24 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs-orgmode

My interest was only in the logfile mode. I was perusing the source,
and it looks like most of it is abstracted through regexps, except one
hard ref in the agenda code.

I also found the timestamp toggle that I was previously unaware
of. Perhaps I'll just do a global replace if I need to see a file by
timestamps.

On the other hand, I think that viewing by timestamp is a great
feature. Active timestamps that trigger appointments are great, but
again the original reason I didn't use them was to prevent clutter.

Thanks.

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 06:24:10PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> I am afraid this is going to be hard, the use of active timestamps is  
> quite strongly hardcoded.  I have made a not on my todo list, but I a  
> not optimistic.
> 
> - Carsten
> 
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Russell Adams wrote:
> 
> >I routinely use inactive timestamps during long tasks to document when
> >items occurred. I use inactive timestamps because I don't want to
> >litter my agenda view during normal use.
> >
> >However I recently discovered the agenda timeline view, which is a
> >great way for me to review when things occurred. The flip side is that
> >I'm not seeing details because of my use of inactive timestamps.
> >
> >Could a toggle be added to turn on/off viewing of inactive timestamps?
> >I don't want to clutter my normal agenda view, but have the ability to
> >turn on detail if needed.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
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* Re: Inactive Timestamps
  2008-03-21 16:47 Inactive Timestamps Russell Adams
  2008-03-22 17:24 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-04-10 10:50 ` Carsten Dominik
  2008-04-10 12:56 ` Carsten Dominik
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-04-10 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell Adams; +Cc: Emacs-orgmode


On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Russell Adams wrote:

> I routinely use inactive timestamps during long tasks to document when
> items occurred. I use inactive timestamps because I don't want to
> litter my agenda view during normal use.
>
> However I recently discovered the agenda timeline view, which is a
> great way for me to review when things occurred. The flip side is that
> I'm not seeing details because of my use of inactive timestamps.
>
> Could a toggle be added to turn on/off viewing of inactive timestamps?
> I don't want to clutter my normal agenda view, but have the ability to
> turn on detail if needed.

This is not what you were asking for, but you do know that you can press
"l" in the timeline buffer to get displayed when an entry was closed,
and when it was clocked?

- Carsten

>
>
> Thanks.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>
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* Re: Inactive Timestamps
  2008-03-21 16:47 Inactive Timestamps Russell Adams
  2008-03-22 17:24 ` Carsten Dominik
  2008-04-10 10:50 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-04-10 12:56 ` Carsten Dominik
  2008-04-10 14:22   ` Russell Adams
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-04-10 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell Adams; +Cc: Emacs-orgmode

Hi Russel, I took another look, and it turned out to be a lot simpler  
than I
had thought.


What you can do now (latest git push), in both agenda and timeline:

- press "l" to get CLOCK and CLOSED timestamps listed (this is not new)
- press "[" to get any other entries related to inactive timestamps.
   There is no mode for getting this permanently, and I dont think  
that this
   is really what you or anybody would want.  But you can now look at
   these additional timestamps when the need arises.

Please give it a try and let me know if you find it useful, and if  
things
work as intended.

- Carsten

On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Russell Adams wrote:

> I routinely use inactive timestamps during long tasks to document when
> items occurred. I use inactive timestamps because I don't want to
> litter my agenda view during normal use.
>
> However I recently discovered the agenda timeline view, which is a
> great way for me to review when things occurred. The flip side is that
> I'm not seeing details because of my use of inactive timestamps.
>
> Could a toggle be added to turn on/off viewing of inactive timestamps?
> I don't want to clutter my normal agenda view, but have the ability to
> turn on detail if needed.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>
> PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>
> Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>
>
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* Re: Inactive Timestamps
  2008-04-10 12:56 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-04-10 14:22   ` Russell Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2008-04-10 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Thats great! I'll give it a try.

You got the right idea, its not the kind of thing you want to always
see. But when you consistently timestamp items, its potentially useful.

Thanks.

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:56:59PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Russel, I took another look, and it turned out to be a lot simpler  
> than I
> had thought.
> 
> 
> What you can do now (latest git push), in both agenda and timeline:
> 
> - press "l" to get CLOCK and CLOSED timestamps listed (this is not new)
> - press "[" to get any other entries related to inactive timestamps.
>   There is no mode for getting this permanently, and I dont think  
> that this
>   is really what you or anybody would want.  But you can now look at
>   these additional timestamps when the need arises.
> 
> Please give it a try and let me know if you find it useful, and if  
> things
> work as intended.
> 
> - Carsten
> 
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Russell Adams wrote:
> 
> >I routinely use inactive timestamps during long tasks to document when
> >items occurred. I use inactive timestamps because I don't want to
> >litter my agenda view during normal use.
> >
> >However I recently discovered the agenda timeline view, which is a
> >great way for me to review when things occurred. The flip side is that
> >I'm not seeing details because of my use of inactive timestamps.
> >
> >Could a toggle be added to turn on/off viewing of inactive timestamps?
> >I don't want to clutter my normal agenda view, but have the ability to
> >turn on detail if needed.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
> >
> >PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
> >
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> >
> >
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