From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Subject: Re: Re: Added support for "habit tracking" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: <1e5bcefd0910230824i820e70fsc4ff24b9978f069c@mail.gmail.com> References: <874opt290u.fsf@gmx.ch> <87zl7lzyfh.fsf@gmx.ch> <834CBDCA-5FC2-4A77-B47F-44F1DC5438DA@gmail.com> <1e5bcefd0910222310h29fe6327j3b56f916da0aeb48@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2041150311==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N1M0G-0003DY-D2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:24:32 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N1M0C-0003BM-R3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:24:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42017 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N1M0C-0003BE-N0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:24:28 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f191.google.com ([209.85.210.191]:42708) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N1M0C-0000yA-BO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:24:28 -0400 Received: by yxe29 with SMTP id 29so5475331yxe.14 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Cc: Matt Lundin , Org-mode Mode --===============2041150311== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64762f2c1b72604769bce17 --0016e64762f2c1b72604769bce17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Habits are different from tasks. It is "suggested" that you do them within > a range of time, but it's not completion which is important, rather > consistency over the long-run. Hence the graph to indicate your overall > progress on the goal of being consistent. > But isn't consistency in the long-run the fact that you have actually *completed* them? So, the thing here is the concept of habit. So, from what I could understand, a habit has to happen during a period of time and have a deadline. In this case, IMO, a weekly review is a habit, even though it does not happen daily, it still has consistent period to be respected (1 day, every seven days), and a deadline (the very same day). Or habits need to be daily? Thanks! On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:34 AM, John Wiegley wrote: > On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: > > How could I define it so I can have a habit that happens weekly but that >> has a hard deadline of that very same weekday it has been specified to? >> > > In this case you would use an ordinary task with a ++1w repeater. Are you > wanting to use habits just for the graph? > > Habits are different from tasks. It is "suggested" that you do them within > a range of time, but it's not completion which is important, rather > consistency over the long-run. Hence the graph to indicate your overall > progress on the goal of being consistent. > > A weekly review, on the other hand, is something that you really should do > every week, and if you miss it doesn't matter how well you've been doing in > the past, a single missed week could throw you off considerably. > > John > --0016e64762f2c1b72604769bce17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Habits are differ= ent from tasks. =A0It is "suggested" that you do them within a range of time, but it's not completion which is important, rather consistency over the long-run. =A0Hence the graph to indicate your overall progress on the goal of being consistent.

= But isn't consistency in the long-run the fact that you have actually *= completed* them?

So, the thing here is the concept of habit. So, fro= m what I could understand, a habit has to happen during a period of time an= d have a deadline.=A0

In this case, IMO, a weekly review is a habit, even though it does not = happen daily, it still has consistent period to be respected (1 day, every = seven days), and a deadline (the very same day). Or habits need to be daily= ?

Thanks!

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at= 5:34 AM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrot= e:

How could I define it so I can have a habit that happens weekly but that ha= s a hard deadline of that very same weekday it has been specified to?

In this case you would use an ordinary task with a ++1w repeater. =A0Are yo= u wanting to use habits just for the graph?

Habits are different from tasks. =A0It is "suggested" that you do= them within a range of time, but it's not completion which is importan= t, rather consistency over the long-run. =A0Hence the graph to indicate you= r overall progress on the goal of being consistent.

A weekly review, on the other hand, is something that you really should do = every week, and if you miss it doesn't matter how well you've been = doing in the past, a single missed week could throw you off considerably.
John

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