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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638788646; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Fk8N3VNNm4EAnuMk8/S3AS3fLLn79s5GdpOJSYLZjDA=; b=PebVNj8hCnfv8i3mhwhgg87aNVCocEZPWgiRifGchryaoWFXMZKO2ag5uF1mliK2D4O5l/ SGhkH3Xirlk9C2MNFEjALdPLOM4zBPWCfRZM7pUH9VUPdvFweiURwRnnUrGMBfqKYUHKgx WBVOpRGdtN4Ki6Cx4Bh5JJU1eEyVL9CHtqUpz1jtXluDLnANlR9Jg7vxUohgScMEpEgOEL gkz7yE75l7GPJx3Iwt03rs6jIoeZo/+JEKfT6Wszb9RdJyfZozeqixwyPfIQZ/kfizeCIz jayDc8hPfc8YK+CLoQ/9hbnTEOrLmVP+oj8n442QBe/5nWLMoZ4wWTSqC9dILQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638788646; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kxqRF7yI9mh0dlczrzbLMmEgZ5Ifpv2H2xiH5QyCKpPYYS4idyWjR1HcCPNu/lmN9rThX1 bZ6iKmx8gca//NACHHX1g6UJgtDhSaN0T+XLXJSJFnRF/gieczV1aWMQQeWJHvJGNXZBI7 agfkNaZy7HewHi5c2yV6CIrXOpZku/Jm2Lu2ggSkOqpTvCrPSuNfdl3MFoZqcwTCaPbUM7 6y3jCDc+rfmfzjOQlgmkUzxo4Vk9U9nlfzO5rS4QqVoX94wQzIR7SFZ2yhH6faFNOZeOwv /JEudOKLmr8Szt8KRKEbvzHp1g0ymSW8x4eutKc0l68ZaEnisKtrdMFFYc1MRg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=FrOVIW7z; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mailbox.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.34 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=FrOVIW7z; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mailbox.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AFECC3D050 X-Spam-Score: -4.34 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Ut6uNA82uC44 Hi Tom Am 04.12.2021 um 18:53 schrieb Tom Gillespie: > Hi all, > After a bunch of rambling (see below if interested), I think I have > a solution that should work for everyone. The key realization is that > what we really want is the ability to have a "parse me separately" > type of syntax. This meets the intra-word syntax needs and might > meet some other needs as well. > > The solution is to make @@org:...@@ "parse me separately" > block! It nearly works that way already too! To minimize typing > we could have @@:...@@ the empty type default to org. > > This seems like a winner to me. The syntax for it already exists > and won't conflict. It requires relatively minimal additional typing > the implication is clear, and there are other places where such > behavior could be useful. > > This syntax seems like a winner to me > @@org:/hello/@@world > @@:/hello/@@world > > You can also do things like > #+begin_src org > I want a number in this number@@org:src_elisp{(+ 1 2)}@@word! > #+end_src > > Which would render to > #+begin_src org > I want a number in this number3word! > #+end_src > > Thoughts? > > Best! > Tom > Thanks for the suggestion. I think that sounds like a good idea. Of course not as terse as the asciidoc inspired suggestion, but entirely appropriate for a case like this one! I also like that there might be other cases where case might be handy. Best, Denis